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Old 02-23-2011, 11:49 AM
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Ive never been one to ask people what they think of my bag, I like what I use and use what I like. over the past year or so Ive been trying to 'refine' my skills in terms of execution of throws and using discs in the manner they are meant to be.

As of right now this is what is in my bag (with the exception of putters)

2 R pro darts (one more beat than the other)

2 Brand new Aviar classics

^^the dart has made putts for me that I never thought could happen. Im looking for something to use during the colder weather and perhaps a better drive from the tee, if needed


DRIVERS: wraiths and destroyer see the least amount of action
Star teerex 175 - beat in
Star boss 168
star xcalibre 175
star destoyer 168 (too domey, looking for a flatter replacement)
Star wraith 175
echo star wraith 171 (debaiting losing both wraiths and putting in my 2 star starfires)
star katana 168
star max 175

Mids:
2 Star makos 177(beat), and 180
Elite Z buzzz ?
Flx Buzzz 177
ESP buzzz 174

Specialty disc:
Elite Z flick 175



I have always liked non bead, wider rimmed discs fwiw. I have 2 vibram summits coming as well as a medium ion, and another star destroyer (hopefully less domey). I also throw both Fh, Rhbh, and Oh


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Old 02-23-2011, 11:52 AM
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I would scrap all of those drivers. If you are learning Technique you should not be throwing such high speed discs. I threw a wraith and it was dependable, but I was not throwing it corrrectly.
The rest of your bag is not bad. I would wonder why 2 aviars and 2 darts.
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:54 AM
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I do not see an understable driver (unless you can turn the wraiths over) or a fairway driver.

I would add a 160's Leopard, River, or AvengerSS depending on preference.
I would also suggest a Teebird or Gazelle, something to work on your form with.
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:55 AM
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I would scrap all of those drivers. If you are learning Technique you should not be throwing such high speed discs. I threw a wraith and it was dependable, but I was not throwing it corrrectly.
The rest of your bag is not bad. I would wonder why 2 aviars and 2 darts.
i didnt mean im 'just learning'. Ive played for about 6-7 years now. Over the more recent years I have started playing tournaments and leagues.

i picked up the aviars in hopes of trying another putter out to see if it was more well suited to me. the r pro doesnt seem to do well in the cold, but when summer heat rolls around and they get warm, its like throwign syrup in the chains. Ive heard many good things about the aviar, and being a non beaded putter, i picked up 2 of them
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Old 02-23-2011, 11:57 AM
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^^agree...if I were you, I would pick up a leopard, valkyrie, and possibly a teebird.
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you still seem to have a lot of overlap for an expereinced player. Go through the drivers and say what you use each for and you may see that your answers are similar.
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I do not see an understable driver (unless you can turn the wraiths over) or a fairway driver.

I would add a 160's Leopard, River, or AvengerSS depending on preference.
I would also suggest a Teebird or Gazelle, something to work on your form with.
Ive had multiple leoppards, just recently sold my last one. Never liked them, in all variations of plastic. I didnt care for the edge of the disc at all. as mentioned i prefer wider rimmed discs and no bead. Ill anny a mid, flick a driver, or thumber my flick. Id prefer snapping the hell out of my katana and coming over the top of it enough to get it to pull
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I am with prerube, if you are working on skill and technique I would suggest nothing faster than a Valk and even still nothing faster than a valk until you hit 400. I would suggest moving to a TL, Teebird, Eagle, or any disc that is like those for your drivers. The mids looked pretty good, make sure you monitor the wear on them and use them specifically for shots...dont just grab any Buzzz for stable to overstable shots and same with the Mako's.

on a side note is that Destroyer pre-Avery?
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you still seem to have a lot of overlap for an expereinced player. Go through the drivers and say what you use each for and you may see that your answers are similar.
I know what you mean. im trying to get a 'beat' and newer flying version of my most used drivers.
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I know what you mean. im trying to get a 'beat' and newer flying version of my most used drivers.
It is a good plan. But are the TeeRex, Xcaliber, Star Max, and Wraiths so different for you that you can confidently pick which to use, or do you pick by gut reaction at the time.

For Example:
TeeRex: Long straight drives with sharp fade around 300 ft.
Xcaliber: Meat hook and hard dog legs <Overlaps with Star Max
Starmax: Extra overstable driver
<Overlap with Xcaliber
Wriath : understable driver for S curve or straight flick disc
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