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I used to own a Champion Wraith but I lost it unfortunately. It was a flat-top 171 champ wraith which was quite rare, the more common domey 175 are not for me. My Star is slight-dome 175 and it performs very similarly. It pretty much flies like the numbers, straight with some turn but I like the fact that it has the fade to ensure it's always going to come back and finish nicely. But I definetly like star more than champ, it's a nice soft blend of star, but the flight really depends on the weight and the shape of the particular run.

It's really hard to estimate the distance but I can throw a Roc 300ft at max, maybe 280ft average. I would say I get between 330-350ft with the "non-overstable" fairways, so I would say the Wraith tops that slightly so it's closer to 380-400ft. Depends on the day, if it feels slippery or I don't feel comfortable with the form to have enough power, I just throw the less-stable fairways instead, the flight becomes straighter with less power.
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Old 04-23-2020, 05:11 PM
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I used to own a Champion Wraith but I lost it unfortunately. It was a flat-top 171 champ wraith which was quite rare, the more common domey 175 are not for me. My Star is slight-dome 175 and it performs very similarly. It pretty much flies like the numbers, straight with some turn but I like the fact that it has the fade to ensure it's always going to come back and finish nicely. But I definetly like star more than champ, it's a nice soft blend of star, but the flight really depends on the weight and the shape of the particular run.

It's really hard to estimate the distance but I can throw a Roc 300ft at max, maybe 280ft average. I would say I get between 330-350ft with the "non-overstable" fairways, so I would say the Wraith tops that slightly so it's closer to 380-400ft. Depends on the day, if it feels slippery or I don't feel comfortable with the form to have enough power, I just throw the less-stable fairways instead, the flight becomes straighter with less power.
It'd probably help your game to do some fieldwork where you measure your throws. Most people (myself included) really don't have any clue how far they are throwing until they actually step foot on a football field and start measuring. Maybe you're the exception to the rule, but I've never met a hobbyist-level player than can touch 400'. Heck, I know guys who are competitive at the Advanced level and top out in the 375' range. But that really is the first step IMO to setting up a bag that works for you, is measuring your power level objectively. It can be eye opening and a bit humbling, but will help you learn what discs fit your arm speed. Just food for thought.
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Old 04-25-2020, 12:40 PM
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It'd probably help your game to do some fieldwork where you measure your throws. Most people (myself included) really don't have any clue how far they are throwing until they actually step foot on a football field and start measuring. Maybe you're the exception to the rule, but I've never met a hobbyist-level player than can touch 400'. Heck, I know guys who are competitive at the Advanced level and top out in the 375' range. But that really is the first step IMO to setting up a bag that works for you, is measuring your power level objectively. It can be eye opening and a bit humbling, but will help you learn what discs fit your arm speed. Just food for thought.
Yeah I agree with the measuring because we really want to know our armspeed, and about how far we can throw with a disc in a certain line. I don't measure with uDisc but I generally have an idea how far I can throw based on map for the holes and the distance of the tee, and it gives me some reference how far I'm getting. With the distance, I used to get barely 380feet with a S-line DDX, which is not really that much power. I must say that if I'm feeling it, I can get wraith to perform similarly but it will be more controllable, and definetly has stronger fade. I got super confused playing 2 weeks into a wind and then had optimal no-wind weather and everything felt way more stable. Maybe for a headwind hyzerlines the faster discs work. But my form is quite rubbish atm so I need to simplify stuff.

Putters:

2x D-line P2 - Putting putters, both worked in, one is little older which is a back-up and for longer putts or deathputts with water behind.

S-line P2 - Quite beat-up but still slightly stable approuches.

D-line P1x - super beat-up, shorter standstill anhyzers that needs to carry the angle.

Mids:

Champ Mako3 - Fresh new, Super straight.

Kc Pro Roc - Similar to Mako3 but has more finish, but being more used pro-plastic it will turn slightly, but gentle fade keeps it from diving to the ground. I use Roc for different angles where mako3 is more of straight shot disc.

Fairways:

C-line FD - all-around straight and far disc.
Star Teebird - Headwind disc.

Star Roadrunner - Understable: Turnovers, or hyzerflips.
Champ Savant - Actually pretty stable with no wind, but with a hard throw I can get a hint of turn.
Champ Firebird - PFN 12x. Quite beat-up but it feels special even if I rarely use it.

Utility:
Swirly S-line FD3 - Doombird3, super OS, will use it against headwind for shorter than 280f shots. With hyzer it will not drift much left, but rather just dives to the ground. The s-line also has little flex so it doesn't skip too much like a stiff C-line would. Great option where midranges would feel unreliable against headwind.

D-line TD - the opposite, super understable roller disc, and standstill troubleshots.

I'm working to get my form back, I feel best with the midranges. I don't need a whole lot of effort with them and they are quite accurate. It feels like veing more efficient. My biggest problems are with drivers, I get quite a lot of noseup, and putters feel like I get a lot of OAT. P2 feels little deep from the rim, but I should try to learn a cleaner release for them.
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Old 05-05-2020, 04:53 PM
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Got 3 new discs and had to shoot few rounds.

2x D-line P2 175 - Putting putters.
S-line P2 175 - Beat, straight thrower.
Hard Exo Tactic 175 - New. Very OS, feels great for short shots.

Mids:
Kc Pro Roc 180 - Somewhat used straight with a little finish.
Champ Mako3 180 - Straight when I want the disc to tail a little right.

7-speeds Fairways:
Active Fox Spirit - New, and actually pretty stable.
C-line FD 175 - Quite beat-up and little understable.
Swirly S-line FD 167 - New. Flatter and more stable.
Opto Explorer 175 - Slightly beat-in, more stable than FD.
Star Teebird 172 - Overstable.

9-speeds:
Star Roadrunner 175 - Understable.
Champ Savant 175 - Quite beat-up, straigh with little fade.
G Star Thunderbird 175 - Slightly beat-up, stable.
Swirly S-line FD3 175 - Very overstable, utilities. (Doombird3-run)
400 H3v2 175 - Back-up for FD3, it's listed as a 10speed but anyway.

Wow that's a lot of molds, but I am mostly throwing the FDs and Explorer for the most part, explorer is not quite as beat-up so it fits for some wind, it can handle the find with it's fade. The Roadrunner can go far with little effort, it can hold the anhyzer entire flight and goes pretty straight on a hyzerflip, also great for standstills and tailwind shots.

For the new discs, the Tactic works for short approuches as intended, likes to dump so it doesn't really fit for a driving putter. Don't really know what to do with the Fox Spirit, but it feels great so far for utilities.

Getting better and better each day, I've got little bit more consistency
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