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View Poll Results: How Far Do You Have To Throw To Be 1000 Rated?
350 ft. 40 25.32%
400 ft. 77 48.73%
450 ft. 43 27.22%
500 ft+. 5 3.16%
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:32 AM
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400' with great putting is easily 1000 rated. They may not always put up 1000 rated rounds on long courses, but they could definitely be 1000 rated.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:43 AM
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So who would be the shortest throwers of the current 1000 rated club? I can think of Nate Sexton always talking about trying to keep up with the big arms, but he is talking about the 500+ throwers. Im pretty sure he is in the 450 range.
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:00 PM
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It amazes me how much our equipment has changed in such a short time. I can't help but think of watching the top pros in the final 9 at 1998 and 1999 DGLO near Ann Arbor. Hole #4 on the Hudson Mills Original course was an open-ish 480-footer with a few mature (and now long dead) ash trees. Climo was left and maybe 375' on his drive with a Gazelle? Stokely was pin-high but more than 100' left, somewhere by (past?) the tee for the next alternate hole with probably an XL. (Neither of the Rico brothers were in a high-percentage birdiable position; one of them had a failed roller if memory serves).

Climo nailed his 100-footer for a birdie two. CHING!!! Stokely made an easy 3, as did everybody else.

The next year, Ron Russell threw a roller with a Cyclone (I think) that made it all the way to the pin for a pickup deuce on the same hole.

I'm guessing today's pros would all be in a good position to deuce this hole, right?
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:02 PM
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Oh, and in that 1999 one, Stokely overthrew Hole #2 (350', mostly open) by like 50' with a friggin' Magnet.
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:07 PM
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So who would be the shortest throwers of the current 1000 rated club? I can think of Nate Sexton always talking about trying to keep up with the big arms, but he is talking about the 500+ throwers. Im pretty sure he is in the 450 range.
Sexton is one of the shorter world class guys, but there is a big difference between 1000 rated and 1030+ where sexton is. Sexton is still 450 at least.

There honestly aren't many guys that throw 400' max and are 1000 rated. That's why this discussion of a theoretical guy who plays select courses, throws 350', and is a 1000 rated guy strikes me as pretty ridiculous. They just aren't there.
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How far can MJ throw on a pure Hyzer? I know its not super long and he is one of the best in the game.
What was it, 2 years ago, he was in top 10 end of year tour points?

Whatever he can throw minus 25 feet to be a 1000 rated player
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See post below.
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This, in all likelihood. If you play a lot where 450' doesn't gain you much, your 400' arm can compete well with those 500' arms.

Also worth remembering that "1000-rated" aren't the same as "top pros". The guy without a 450' arm (or perhaps more) may not be able to compete on the pro tour, but he can be a local or regional star. I've known of 1000-rated players whom I doubt could reach 450', but who were extremely accurate and consistent.

Of course, there are a bunch of people with 500' arms who will never reach 1000 rating.
I've not read every post, but as is often the case, David has hit the nail on the head. I will add, the kind of game that gives consistency and accuracy, also gives distance. If you have those two components down, you will be as long as your body allows.

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Old 06-04-2018, 01:24 PM
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I'm willing to bet that there are a lot of Masters/grandmasters that are between 990-1010 that only throw 400. A lot of those top older players put up hot rounds with wild rollers and flawless putting. How far does Moser throw in the air? Maybe 450 max? He's been over 1000 rated for a very long time.
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I've not read every post, but as is often the case, David has hit the nail on the head. I will add, the kind of game that gives consistency and accuracy, also gives distance. If you have those two components down, you will be as long as your body allows.
I don't agree with any aspect of this post. I have been racking my brain for 1000 rated guys who max out at 400' or less and i can't think of a single one (and have played with a bunch). I don't agree with David at all. 450+ of power lets you throw mid ranges 350 and putters 300' which greatly affects your ability to score.

It is definitely not true that if you have an accurate game you will be "as long as your body allows". There are lots of players who throw accurately at relatively low speeds and are not getting nearly the power they could be if their mechanics were different. I used to be one of them.
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