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Old 08-02-2009, 06:20 PM
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i have been throwing the surge as a primary distance driver all year, i have two of them in esp (one 169, one 171) and i am starting to turn them over, i have found myself throwing a force for max distance for the time being because i'm never completely sure what the surge will do

Could i just be trying to hard to whip the surge? could it be beaten in to a point where it's flippy? should i get a heavier surge and see if it works better? should i switch to a force for my primary distance drives?

i'm just confused and with a tournament this weekend i'm nervous that it could turn over on me
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:27 PM
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Hard to say without seeing you throw or seeing the condition of the discs. I've found Z plastic to be more stable and of course stays that way a lot longer so maybe try a Z Surge and bump up a gram or two.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:40 PM
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I got a 172g first run Surge is will flip if I crank. I always release em with a slight hyzer if Im throwing 100%. My FLX Surge seems more overstable than my ESP, but I might be wrong.
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Old 08-02-2009, 06:42 PM
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ya the flx plastic tends to be more overstable, but i realized that since i had been throwing the force more (which i throw kind of a huge flex shot with) that i've been throwing my surges like that too, which turn over, i was out in the field throwing with a hyzer release and they seem to fly okay
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:36 PM
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My guess is your are over torquing with OAT.
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Old 08-02-2009, 11:39 PM
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BH or FH? My surge (before it broke in) could take lots of torque (sidearm, FH). Now slightly more stable than a broken in wraith
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Old 08-03-2009, 12:17 AM
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i went out and threw for about two hours (just my surges) and realized that i was using to much torque, i have gone back to a slight hyzer release and am getting a fair amount of distance, thanks for the help guys, i think i just got over confident in the disc thinking it could handle torque like my force
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My guess is your are over torquing with OAT.
That's my guess too, depending on how far you're throwing it.

Most people are surprised at how hard it really is to turn a fast driver once they clean up their throw.
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Old 08-03-2009, 11:53 AM
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i went out and threw for about two hours (just my surges) and realized that i was using to much torque, i have gone back to a slight hyzer release and am getting a fair amount of distance, thanks for the help guys, i think i just got over confident in the disc thinking it could handle torque like my force
You might want to try out an ESP Avenger. Should be able to handle a bit more torque without turning over
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