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Old 04-21-2013, 10:40 PM
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Hmmm,
Well after two rounds the VIP AIR Stag has earned a place in my bag. I've got a 155g and it seems stable, just what I was looking for. More fade than a TL, the same as a DX Teebird for me, but in both cases longer. Haven't tried anhyzers with it, but it hyzers predictably.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:07 PM
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Hmm....from reading this...it seems like there is a huge difference between the VIP and TP stags...does anyone use a setup like this for their fairways...like...VIP in the teebird spot, maybe a slightly beat up TP for their Understable spot? Just curious, ordering some stuff tomorrow
I've been testing this setup out for a week or two now and I'm really satisfied with it. Even at my 300-ish feet of power, my 165 Tournament has some turn to it - definitely more so than my 171 VIP - and flies straighter longer before the fade kicks in as long as I release it flat. It's more prone to hold an anhyzer line; seems more Eagle X-y than the VIP. Definitely compliments the VIP, and opens up some new lines.

I'm also trying to throw my Tournament as much as possible to see how it beats in.
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Old 04-27-2013, 03:22 PM
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I've been testing this setup out for a week or two now and I'm really satisfied with it. Even at my 300-ish feet of power, my 165 Tournament has some turn to it - definitely more so than my 171 VIP - and flies straighter longer before the fade kicks in as long as I release it flat. It's more prone to hold an anhyzer line; seems more Eagle X-y than the VIP. Definitely compliments the VIP, and opens up some new lines.

I'm also trying to throw my Tournament as much as possible to see how it beats in.
+1. I think the Tourney + VIP Stag combo will be great for a lot of throwers.
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Old 04-27-2013, 03:59 PM
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In the VIP plastic, lots of glide and a predictable fade at the end of the flight. Turns a little hard into headwinds. Personally I will continue to experiment with this one.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:04 PM
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STAG!!! Finally got it out for more than a couple throws. Man it's great! Both the tp and VIP are bagged. Like a glider teebird. The two remind me of a tl/teebird pairing. With the saint on the other side of stability the stag/saint lineup is gonna be deadly!!
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Old 05-07-2013, 11:05 PM
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I have a 175 vip that is very nice, however it seems close to my biofuzion escapes and not sure how in the long run where it will fit. Doesn't have anywhere near the amount fade though that is stated. I would say it is a 2 fade. The nice thing is that it takes very little power to get it out there. Going to continue work with this to see if it stays in the bag.
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Old 05-08-2013, 12:27 AM
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Can you give me more in th comparison between the Stag and Escape?

Is the Escape or the Stag longer?
Which has better glide?
Which the stronger finish?

Which is more HSS, a VIP Stag or BioFuzion Escape?


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In other news I had some really nice throws with both the Stag and the Saint tonight.
Close to 400 but Stag in a left to right cross wind and Saint in a tail wind.

I have some TP Stags coming. Hopefully they don't overlap too much with the Saint.

And a friend picked me up a BioFuzion Escape from DN today so I'll get to test that when he returns.

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Old 05-08-2013, 08:32 AM
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Would this compliment my c-fd (the first run) nicely as being more stable but not as stable as fb. So would this fill the role between firebird and c-fd or should i be looking for something different
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:33 AM
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I will compare the biofuzion escape 166 g to the vip stag 174 g. I would say the biofuzion escape is a 9, 6, 0, 2 and the stag is a 8, 6, 0, 2. Both I have been testing and have to say both have a similar flight pattern. The Stag seems easier to make different lines with, hyzer flex, power down throws, low ceiling. The Escape being even being much lighter handles head winds better and I trust it a bit more on the longer power throws. Both if cranked really hard has the slightest turn at full power but will fight out of it. The escape also seems to have a bit more glide. I just ordered some 174 g biofuzion escapes to compare and will also try some lighter weight stags in the future. I seem to be grabbing for both of them for a lot of the same shots, but love how both work for me. I also do not have a big arm. I'm a 350-400 max player.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:41 AM
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One more thing I own a lucid Escape and it is not the same disc as the biofuzion and has a lot more turn and that is why I compare the biofuzion vs the lucid.
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