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Old 05-04-2018, 08:52 AM
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Not knowing at all what the land is like. I can only speculate that the costs of installing the immobile friend component is only a small part of the whole thing. There's also the land it is occupying. It might need work so that it can used as the intend it to be. Landscaping, and so on isn't exactly a cheap thing when it's a large project and some of that work is undoing what was previously there.
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Old 05-04-2018, 09:07 AM
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We’re building a single dam on our property and it’s likely going to cost between 350-400k. Engineered projects get out of hand fast.
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Old 05-04-2018, 09:08 AM
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OP says one of the bids quotes targets priced at $1000. That seems a bit much, even installed.

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Old 05-04-2018, 09:23 AM
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OP says one of the bids quotes targets priced at $1000. That seems a bit much, even installed.
It likely is, but they could be laying out multiple placement pads, really strongly elevated baskets built up with rockwork, etc... It’s impossible to say exactly where that $1k is being budgeted until reveal but as a builder I’d rather have a surplus than a shortage of cash flow. They’re obviously not sparing any expense and they are shooting for a premium bucket list DG destination course. Some say simply throwing a bunch of money into building something saves you marketing capital later because it gets people talking and is an automatic differentiator in this sport.

There can be many ways of looking at it, but an emerging trend of kick-ass courses being built with other peoples’ money is something I can get behind.
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Old 05-04-2018, 09:57 AM
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It almost seems like Parks and Rec bosses are in a competition to see who can build the best disc golf course. I hope so anyway.

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Old 05-04-2018, 10:55 AM
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OP says one of the bids quotes targets priced at $1000. That seems a bit much, even installed.
We tend think in terms of what it would take for us to put baskets in as individuals or working with public works crews. I've been a highway/bridge engineer for 35 years and have observed what seem like extremely expensive bids for seemingly simple tasks. But once you start engaging professional contractors to do public works project the overhead becomes astronomical. Just the various prequalifications, certifications, insurance, reporting, etc. add huge amounts to contract costs. You should see the amount of paperwork it takes to work with/for a public agency.

The engineering companies that I work for and with typically have an overhead factor of around 2.5 That means if a technician is paid $ 50 per hour the client is billed at $125 per hour. This covers all of those "other" costs. Contractors deal with similar costs, so installing a $300 basket could easily run $1000 by the time all of the work is actually completed.
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Old 05-04-2018, 11:01 AM
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Doof derfed up his links and tried to give us files in his downloads folder, but here's the links he was trying to give:
https://www.centralauctionhouse.com/...t.php?id=94602
https://www.centralauctionhouse.com/...t.php?id=94798

https://www.centralauctionhouse.com/...-the-park.html
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Doof derfed up his links and tried to give us files in his downloads folder, but here's the links he was trying to give:
https://www.centralauctionhouse.com/...t.php?id=94602
https://www.centralauctionhouse.com/...t.php?id=94798

https://www.centralauctionhouse.com/...-the-park.html
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Old 05-04-2018, 12:46 PM
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Since it’s in LA, no off-season, so 365 days of play with an average of 12 hours of daylight. If it takes 3 hours to play (similar to Harmony Bends) there could be a group of 4 teeing off every 6 minutes for 9 hours a day for 30 years. That’s 11,826,000 player hours over the life of the course. Take the initial $568,000 price, add $20,000 per year for mowing and maintenance, and it comes out to less than a dime per hour of outdoor exercise and entertainment.

Yeah, it's worth it.

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Old 05-04-2018, 01:30 PM
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Since it’s in LA, no off-season, so 365 days of play with an average of 12 hours of daylight. If it takes 3 hours to play (similar to Harmony Bends) there could be a group of 4 teeing off every 6 minutes for 9 hours a day for 30 years. That’s 11,826,000 player hours over the life of the course. Take the initial $568,000 price, add $20,000 per year for mowing and maintenance, and it comes out to less than a dime per hour of outdoor exercise and entertainment.

Yeah, it's worth it.
These must be similar to the assumptions underlying your par calculations.

This may not be the polar opposite to Morley Field or Golden Gate Park from the standpoint of how much play it gets, but it will likely be far closer to the opposite end of the spectrum. MikeK would probably be the most knowledgeable about expected usage.
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