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Old 04-26-2020, 07:21 AM
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An upshot was exactly what I used the Champ for. I hated the feel for putting, but it was really good at the sit and stay upshot. I didn't like it for driving, so I was driving with a KC Pro, taking upshots with a beadless Champ and putting with DX PandA or Classic...there was a lot going on there.

I finally decided that I was thinking too much about which Aviar I should throw and I switched to all Yetis. Yetis were kinda a middle ground for me; I didn't like them as much for any use as the other three I was using, but I liked them enough to use instead of all three. I'm married, so I'm used to compromise.
That's funny. I've putting and throwing Yeti's and Rhynos for years. Never had a problem until last year, the beads started hanging up and every third or so shot hangs up on my index finger and goes right, even when putting. Switched to Aviars late last year and the release problem went away.

I have no problem with Rocs though.
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Old 04-26-2020, 08:21 AM
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Anyone know what plastic is the most stable?

Recently switched to DX Aviars for putting and throwing, but DX beats in pretty quick. Are champs or stars more stable as throwers?

And no, I don't care for the 3, X3 versions or P2's, just want the simple Aviar.
My Star Aviar is the less stable of my Aviar's. I factor that into it also being 163 grams. My R-Pro is max weight and handles similar to my 171 DX's, and the 171 Classic P&A.
The star plastic feels nice. Has grip. It rewards your efforts in good throwing, and it punishes bad releases. I'm not bothered with handling and throwing it in the cold either.
I'm super tempted to get a champion Aviar next time I pick up some discs.
Personally, I compliment my aviar's with an x3.

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Old 04-26-2020, 08:44 AM
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That's funny. I've putting and throwing Yeti's and Rhynos for years. Never had a problem until last year, the beads started hanging up and every third or so shot hangs up on my index finger and goes right, even when putting. Switched to Aviars late last year and the release problem went away.

I have no problem with Rocs though.

I had this same issue with my Wizards. They were my main putter for the last 5+ years and on a whim my GF bought me a custom stamped Aviar for Valentines day. We both throw Wizards so I don't know why she thought an Aviar was a good gift!! Long story short, I got tired of looking at the Aviar and I got tired of missing putts with my Wizard due to grip issues. Not having the bead on the Aviar has improved my putting consistency tremendously. I love the feel of Wizards, but I hate the feel of missing putts. It was a good adjustment and a good switch.

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Old 04-26-2020, 11:12 AM
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That's funny. I've putting and throwing Yeti's and Rhynos for years. Never had a problem until last year, the beads started hanging up and every third or so shot hangs up on my index finger and goes right, even when putting. Switched to Aviars late last year and the release problem went away.

I have no problem with Rocs though.
The bead never bothered me, but I ended up with a Warlock randomly when those came out and it was in the stack of putters I'd practice with. You could just see the difference with that one disc; clean release without the wobble my putts always had. I didn't really feel it, but I could see it. I had been switching back and forth from KC Pro Aviars to Wizards, so I just changed that to switching back and forth from a PandA or Classic Aviar to Warlocks. Plus I've never really fully decided that I really NEED a beadless putter so I'll go back to a KC Pro or Yeti or Wizard...maybe I shouldn't give advice on putters.

I still pretty much default to a beaded putter for drives, but it's habit more than anything. A PandA or Classic Aviar is plenty HHS enough for me to drive with. I think the lack of bead just beats them in more quickly. I don't really have the wobble-release thing with my drives, just my putts. The people I play with often always notice when I go back to putting with a beaded putter; the wobble is pretty prominent.
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Old 04-26-2020, 12:04 PM
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I'm apparently the only one, but I do find the Star P&As to be more stable than DX. They take a lot longer to break in, so maybe that's actually what I've noticed. I have had some outlier DX that are more stable than the norm. But it really does seem that most Stars are a little more stable new. As far as glide goes, for me the extra glide of DX seems to come from them flipping up more.

I love Aviars. For throwing I typically carry 2 DX P&As at different stages of wear, 1 Star P&A, and one Star Driver Mold to cover a lot of shots and stabilities. The P&A really is my bread and butter mold. I also putt with JKs.
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Old 04-26-2020, 12:36 PM
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Bonus idea: I actually really liked the Millennium Omega AP; it's just the small-bead Aviar mold in Pro plastic. A little more durable and not as much as a glide-suck as Champ.
I had a stack of Omega DTs (from the first run) I just sold. Those were like the old school DX.
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Where are you playing that upshots with a DX Aviar season it quickly?

You can always grab a few Tour Series/McPro Aviars. That'll give you a more premium plastic without killing a ton of glide like Champ and Star.
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Old 04-26-2020, 04:50 PM
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How have we gone this long with "PandA" not being how we all refer to them?

Stealing, not giving credit...

My favorite throwing Aviar PnA has a Pandamonium Discs stamp with a roaring panda on it.

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Old 04-26-2020, 05:37 PM
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Glow Champ is pretty stable for PnA's, but not readily available.

I have one of the new style stamp regular Champs and that is a decent slightly over stable flyer.
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Where are you playing that upshots with a DX Aviar season it quickly?

You can always grab a few Tour Series/McPro Aviars. That'll give you a more premium plastic without killing a ton of glide like Champ and Star.

anywhere in the Midwest. michigan here and we smashhhh trees

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