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Old 08-04-2011, 11:20 PM
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Just sayin, Joe's lists a River at -0.5 hss and 3 lss, while latitude lists it as -2 and 1. That's a pretty big discrepancy.
I really just use flight charts as a VERY rough way of seeing how a disc will fly when I get it. I think the most accurate flight chart ever would just a a picture of the disc careening towards a tree, cuz there's no doubt it'll be doing some of that here and there, haha
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:27 PM
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I've been throwing a river for a few months and absolutely love them. The Opto is domier and has much more HSS than the heavier and flatter GL. They vary quite a bit, but the GL is a good compliment and between the two I have every shot I could want covered by the disc. If you like them, the variance in the mold is nice because you get pretty different discs and keep the same mold which is nice, you've just gotta play with a few and see what you like and then know what to look for in them.
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:35 PM
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I really just use flight charts as a VERY rough way of seeing how a disc will fly when I get it. I think the most accurate flight chart ever would just a a picture of the disc careening towards a tree, cuz there's no doubt it'll be doing some of that here and there, haha
I usually think Joe's is pretty accurate for me, especially for drivers and mids, so I feel like I can guess how something is going to fly for me by it.

However, people here seem to be describing flight more closer to lat64's chart. Guess the only thing I can do is grab one and give it a whirl!
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Old 08-04-2011, 11:35 PM
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I think rivers generally fit the more US description by Latitude 64, but I've heard the heavier ones can be more teebird/eagle like. Both of mine (165 GL, 172 O) have been about 7/6/-2/2 rated i would say.
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Old 08-05-2011, 12:53 AM
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Rivers seem to vary a lot by weight. My experience with GL: lightweight <165g are usually Leopardy, getting up to 170g are ELy, 176g+ get between TLs and TBs. These are all nearly deflashed, and Opto tend to be a notch more stable.
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:04 AM
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Rivers seem to vary a lot by weight. My experience with GL: lightweight <165g are usually Leopardy, getting up to 170g are ELy, 176g+ get between TLs and TBs. These are all nearly deflashed, and Opto tend to be a notch more stable.
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:11 AM
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Looked @ one of these yesterday, looks alot like a Cyclone. Comparable?
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:22 AM
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I have been throwing Rivers as my go to driver for over a year now. Only in the last week am I going to be scaling them back and concentrating more on the Teebird. My reasoning being that since I backhanded a tree at full force two months ago, I cannot get consistent snap. When my wrist fails to fire, my grip overcompensates and either griplocks enough where I send the disc high and the right or I wrist roll the disc into an unintended anhyzer shooting it straight out to the right. The Teebird is just a tad less nose sensitive and a little more resistent to wrist roll than the River.

Here is how it affects the River:

When I get the snap right as well as the nose angle and release point, the River is the straightest disc I have ever thrown. No fade and no turn from straight to finish and it does not take a tremendous amount of power to do so. It is the ultimate fairway driver. I have shown this picture before, but this is my 177g Gold Line River at Blue Ribbon Pines. I nailed it perfectly, putting me on the left side of the fairway and at least giving me a legitimate shot at a 2. It landed about where that guy is on the left. This throw was a day before I backhanded the tree.



However, since I developed that technique flaw two months ago, I find the harder I try to hit a tight fairway or want to make a perfect placement, the less likely I am able to do it. I have been wrist rolling the River a lot. The River is hard to flip but easy to turn. So trying to compensate for my sudden inconsistencies by hyzer flipping the River is hit or miss at best. Yet since it is easy to turn, it is very hard for it to come out of a wrist roll.

Also, while I would not call the River nose sensitive, because of its tremendous glide if it does have a nose up attitude, it does like to climb upwards. This was fatal during last weekend's B tier. When I wanted nice and easy placement down tight fairways or lines, sometimes it would just climb and nail those low hanging branches.

I am going to keep the Rivers in the bag, they are just too awesome for me to give up on because of my sudden inadequecies, but for the time being I am getting far better results from newer/ less beat Star Teebirds.


As for ratings. I agree that light Gold Lines are very Leopard-like while heavy Gold Lines are closer to very beat light TeeBirds. My Optos have had a wide variety of stabilities. Most seem to be a touch more HSS but more finicky LSS. When underpowered they seem to have more LSS but once you exceed a certain power and speed, they actually seem to have less LSS than Gold Line. Yet during the winter, these variations in stability seem to settle down and the Optos actually become more Gold Line like while the Gold Lines become rather difficult to grip because of how slick GL becomes when wet.
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Old 09-03-2011, 10:50 PM
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Another question to be asked onthis thread...how do light (<165g) rivers work for rollers?
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