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Old 02-21-2013, 08:01 PM
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Why is there no love for this disc? I stumbled upon one when I was caught out of town with no discs. Since then I have picked up as many as I can... Definitely my favorite control drive disc... My question is, why doesn't this gem get any love?
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:22 PM
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Most people try to avoid discs made by Gateway, except for their putters. They had a long history of making very overstable drivers that nobody could really throw unless they had a huge arm.

Everyone knows their putters are great. Not everyone knows that they have a very solid midrange lineup. Their drivers are still hit or miss. Apache is one of the few that stand out. Great disc. Very straight, lots of glide. I'd stick with the HPP plastic - I found other stuff to be not durable enough for higher speed drivers.
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:32 PM
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Their Evo plastic feels close to 10x plastic to me. Nice stuff!
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:05 PM
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Their Evo plastic feels close to 10x plastic to me. Nice stuff!
There's Evo and there's Evo HPP (high performance polymer). The Evo feels like 10x but unfortunately also beats in as fast as 10x. If you want something durable like star/champ you'll want HPP.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:17 PM
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It looks like a very good disc but the Teebird spot in my bag is not up for debate. The Blaze, Spirit and Sabre might be the most underrated discs in disc golf but that has a lot to do with Gateway switching up their Evolution plastic. Without a doubt Gateway has made some of the best plastic blends I have ever used but the next time you order it might be different.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:25 PM
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Yeah I am a bit worried about durability... I think mine are the evo hpp... No one in the marketplace seemed to have hpp. :/

And I don't see it rivaling the Teebird... It is a bit straighter with some turn... I'm holding onto the birds in my bag too.
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I got love for my Apaches. I believe they are all evolution plastic......and 2 feel similar but slightly different and one is completely different feeling (almost more rubbery than plasticy).

Mine are all pretty durable...it makes me feel better after i drive into a tree and inspect my disc to find no damage.

Anyone know the main difference btwn the evolution plastic and the evo hpp?

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Old 02-21-2013, 10:03 PM
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Anyone know the main difference btwn the evolution plastic and the evo hpp?

Probably more Urethane in HPP.
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I used to have one. In like 2001 or 02 or sometime around there and I loved it. I did not play much for a couple years after and I gave it to a buddy who liked it too. Once I got back into discin again a few years ago I bought a new one, and it was not as good. The original one I had was semi domey and I could do nice long turnovers consistently. The newer one was much more OS and I did not like it at all. So I traded that to a different buddy. Maybe now that I got more snap back I could throw it better however.
I also bought a DT Diablo at the same time as the new Apache. Big mistake. The guy that said they make too many mega arm drivers is right.

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I used to have one. In like 2001 or 02 or sometime around there and I loved it. I did not play much for a couple years after and I gave it to a buddy who liked it too. Once I got back into discin again a few years ago I bought a new one, and it was not as good. The original one I had was semi domey and I could do nice long turnovers consistently. The newer one was much more OS and I did not like it at all. So I traded that to a different buddy. Maybe now that I got more snap back I could throw it better however.
I also bought a DT Diablo at the same time as the new Apache. Big mistake. The guy that said they make too many mega arm drivers is right.
The Apache from 01-02 is the Sabre today.
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