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Overstable 16 12.40%
Straight 105 81.40%
Understable 0 0%
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Old 05-22-2019, 12:38 AM
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The problem of the wording comes from the definition of the property itself. The ``stability'' property has one axis, but it has two directions: ``understable'' to the one side and ``overstable'' to the other, with ``stable'' in the middle. Such a system is awkward, because you cannot measure with a single term. Instead you have to only use the word ``understable'' if you talk about values on the one side (i.e. ``more understable'' and ``less understable'') and only use the word ``overstable'' when you talk about values on the other side (i.e. ``less overstabel'' and ``more overstable''), whereas you use the word ``stable'' only when you mean ``close to the middle''. But you may never call one understable disc more overstable when it is still on the understable side. This system does not match the mind model for property measurement on a single axis. Actually, there is no single axis, but it's rather three separate properties, that are connected, laying on three axis, which happen to be all on top of each other. This does not match the idea of one single ``stability'' property. Actually, it should be the ``overstable/understable/straight-stable properties''.

Or, if we want to go with the other school of thought, we would call it the ``stability property'' with discs having positive or negative values, or being around zero. In this case, we can talk about ``more stable''.

This thread is about the question which school of thought is the prefered one.


... still ignoring, that stability is not one value on a single (or three overlaying) axis, but a combination of at least the two properties ``resistance to high-speed turn'' and ``amount of low-speed fade''.
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Stable to me is a disc that is resistant to turning. Something you can throw as hard as you want and you know it will go straight. These are also the discs you want to build your bag around.
This is my take as well. A stable disc disc has little or no turn unless there is a stiff headwind, and a reliable fade.
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There used to be flame wars on this topic...what has happened to DGCR!?

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There used to be flame wars on this topic...what has happened to DGCR!?
The flame wars are in the spoiler threads now.

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There used to be flame wars on this topic...what has happened to DGCR!?

them youngins got off our lawns, stayed off, and let us wither away while they created their own discgolfpark across the street for team challenges (that, as an entry prerequisite, require all players to throw overstable plasticz only).
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Dave Feldberg in his blog mentioned the story, when the whole card was throwing overstable drivers into the headwind, Run Russell threw a Comet to park the hole for the win.
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