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more* harder FTFY
And comprehension is harder still!
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:23 AM
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And comprehension is harder still!
Don't you mean "more" harder? Geesh...
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Don't you mean "more" harder? Geesh...
Nope, I meant what I said and I said what I meant!

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Old 03-03-2019, 09:32 AM
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^ ^ ^ This. The PDGA rule about 500 being available to the public before they can be used in tournaments may have been designed just to prevent the kind of cheating you suggest.

There are a lot of people upset with this 'incident' concerning the Kong, and we may see much stronger enforcement of the rules, as well as disallowing 'tweaking' without re-approvals.
Are people actually upset? Which people? Why?

The 500 disc rule only applies to the World Championships, for whatever reason. No rules are being broken.

Also, tweaking is done with the existing tooling. The rumor is the people testing the Kong would like to try it with some more dome. Totally doable with the existing mold.

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Old 03-03-2019, 10:14 AM
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The PDGA approval process is bogus. It keeps us from having customized-to-fit discs like real golfers have with their clubs. Tech standards can still apply

It needs to be removed. At this point, I suspect it simply acts as a fundraiser.

Another reason I will not join the PDGA

Please let’s not poke fun at the PDGA just because they think they’re god over the Disc world or their collusion with disc manufacturers so we can’t tweet our equipment like every other sport.

After all, it only makes the manufacturers millions of dollars.
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I don't get the whole "custom fit" angle for disc golf. I mean, we throw pieces of plastic. Aerodynamics don't change. Heaven knows that manufacturers have produced just about every conceivable shape of flying disc at this point that makes any sense. What exactly would you be customizing if you could do so? Not to mention the fact that it would be prohibitively expensive to most players to pay to customize something that is easily lost and wears in fairly quickly. Golf clubs are just not a good analogy to discs in this case.

And yes the 500 discs sold rule doesn't apply to all PDGA tournaments. As long as the Kong mold is PDGA approved, it can be used in most tournaments regardless of whether a single one has been sold.

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The PDGA approval process is bogus. It keeps us from having customized-to-fit discs like real golfers have with their clubs. Tech standards can still apply



It needs to be removed. At this point, I suspect it simply acts as a fundraiser.



Another reason I will not join the PDGA

How would one “customize-to-fit” a disc?
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Old 03-03-2019, 09:21 PM
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I am going to use myself as an exanple, so others will have different examples.

I am 5'11" with a very low ape index. When fitting golf clubs, one looks at how how high the wrist bones sits above the ground. I use clubs designed for a 6'2" to 6'4" person. My middle finger is a quarter inch longer than my ring finger...which is is a quarter inch longer than my pointer finger, so my grips have to be smaller.

For my golf clubs, this means I use over-lengthed shafts with undersized grips. One finger does not give one enough grip to hang on to a normal sized grips.

I have the power to throw speed 13 discs but I can't grip the bloody things. Speed 11 discs are my max rim size, and even those give me issue.

All I need to do is take a dremal tool and grind out a notch, and I can throw a Destroyer or a Crank just fine. As it is, I am limited Wave for max distance and a Volt for distance and control.

This is stupid as bloody h&ll. Why can I not customize my grip to fit my hand? Bloody stupid rules to raise money to have a disc mold verified is why. (I am an An-Cap, so I have no issue with companies/groups making money...I want to spend money on custom equipment)

Sure, there are 3 to 5 pros that can have discs custom fitted to them(read have a custom molds made for them) but the rest of is are out of luck.

Yeah, the PDGA can go burn.

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How would one “customize-to-fit” a disc?
Sorry, the above rant was not aimed at you. This is mild compared to every time I go shoe shopping. My girlfriend refuses to go into a shoe store with me.

Celtic/Greek toes and a narrow heel. Sigh.
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I am going to use myself as an exanple, so others will have different examples.

I am 5'11" with a very low ape index. When fitting golf clubs, one looks at how how high the wrist bones sits above the ground. I use clubs designed for a 6'2" to 6'4" person. My middle finger is a quarter inch longer than my ring finger...which is is a quarter inch longer than my pointer finger, so my grips have to be smaller.

For my golf clubs, this means I use over-lengthed shafts with undersized grips. One finger does not give one enough grip to hang on to a normal sized grips.

I have the power to throw speed 13 discs but I can't grip the bloody things. Speed 11 discs are my max rim size, and even those give me issue.

All I need to do is take a dremal tool and grind out a notch, and I can throw a Destroyer or a Crank just fine. As it is, I am limited Wave for max distance and a Volt for distance and control.

This is stupid as bloody h&ll. Why can I not customize my grip to fit my hand? Bloody stupid rules to raise money to have a disc mold verified is why. (I am an An-Cap, so I have no issue with companies/groups making money...I want to spend money on custom equipment)

Sure, there are 3 to 5 pros that can have discs custom fitted to them(read have a custom molds made for them) but the rest of is are out of luck.

Yeah, the PDGA can go burn.
By doing this don’t you completely screw up the aerodynamics and natural flight of the disc?

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