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View Poll Results: What do you find most annoying about the new disc golf scene?
Kids, damn kids on my lawn. It never used to be popular and crowded. 27 17.53%
The sun is hotter than it used to be! 17 11.04%
The attitude that Ed's dead long live McBeth.. Don't these kids know where we came from! 0 0%
Trading "hippies" for "hipsters" 14 9.09%
Too many discs! Back in my day it was a putter, mid and driver. 10 6.49%
The reclassification of my current distance driver as a "fairway driver" 4 2.60%
Mowed and manicured courses, back in my day the rough was rough! 3 1.95%
Thumber, tomahawks, OH.. That's not how a disc is supposed to fly dumbass 8 5.19%
Some 14 year old throwing 200' further than me. 52 33.77%
I've got my own complaint.. See below. 19 12.34%
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Old 06-14-2019, 10:09 AM
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I don't ever think I've ever bickered about anything like this on a disc golf course. Some people suck....any age... go throw plastic and be grateful you get to play.
I'm with you... I have seen bickering and dickering about stuff especially foot faults. I'm really glad the PDGA has relaxed the footing rule, in my little world it has made a big difference. Some of the cranky players, yes all older IME, used to call foot faults whether they were or not to at least disrupt the rhythm. It was used as a crafty/cranky advantage, I don't worry about it anymore, I know my foot is roughly in that box.

Just happy to play... I've had plenty of injuries, had to play wrong handed for months at a time, I even played with crutches a bunch too. I really just love watching a disc fly, even if it's a Comet one disc round just for the purity of the sport. Doesn't matter I can't get it as far as I used to, if I want to feel awesome I jump in with some amateurs. Sometimes I play with ams wrong handed and then sneak a drive in with my regular hand and see if they notice.
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Old 06-21-2019, 07:27 AM
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Youth is wasted on the young. 90% of millennials are completely worthless stupid lazy whiny sniveling entitled human meatbags.

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Old 06-21-2019, 09:59 AM
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Youth is wasted on the young.
George Carlin explains it best.

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“The most unfair thing about life is the way it ends. I mean, life is tough. It takes up a lot of your time. What do you get at the end of it? A Death! What’s that, a bonus? I think the life cycle is all backwards. You should die first, get it out of the way. Then you live in an old age home. You get kicked out when you’re too young, you get a gold watch, you go to work. You work forty years until you’re young enough to enjoy your retirement. You do drugs, alcohol, you party, you get ready for high school. You go to grade school, you become a kid, you play, you have no responsibilities, you become a little baby, you go back into the womb, you spend your last nine months floating …and you finish off as an orgasm.”

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Youth is wasted on the young. 90% of millennials are completely worthless stupid lazy whiny sniveling entitled human meatbags.
Yeah I don't know if the numbers are quite that high but I agree. It's a very entitled generation or the "why me" generation. Why should I work hard when I won't ever be able to afford a house. Why should I stock shelves when I can play on my phone and watch stupid memes? Why doesn't the government pay for my internet. There's this whole defeatist attitude before they even get out of the gate.

Don't even get me started on millenial humour... I don't get it, I guess there is a finite number of jokes and funny stuff in the universe and once you've seen it all you just need to come up with stupider stuff. How did a generation raised by Simpson's, South Park and Family guy suddenly get so offended by everything.

We are going backwards, I'm going to go watch Idiocracy and yell at the T.V. now...

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While I do understand some of the general attitude toward the young'uns, I also try to look objectively at the world they stand to inherit.

It ain't exactly an inspiring view.

It's very interesting to see how my 22-year-old sees things, and then compare and contrast that with how my 13-year-old behaves and thinks. There are differences, of course, having to do with real-world experience. But the similarities tell the story.

They both see corruption, vice, hypocrisy, and deceit. We can try to shield them from such realities - and it was easier with the elder of the two - but the fact is, unless you home-school your kids or live out in the woods without a TV and internet access, they're going to be exposed to some of it. And of course we (my wife and I, plus the extended family) try our best to inject our own values in there somewhere, but the sad fact is that it's a pretty awful time in history, and they're plenty smart enough to see that.

Without cracking into the Keg O' Politics too much, I find it difficult in the extreme to temper their angst when they see how our so-called "leaders" act. So I don't really blame them for thinking, "WTF?" at every turn. And that eventually translates into a sort of depression. It's low-grade now, but by the time they're fully in the workforce as "contributing members of society" (whatever that may look like in 10 or 20 years), they're going to be in Full-Blown Panic Mode.

I hope there are fundamental changes for the better before that ever happens, but again - the prognosis is not good. All I can do is try my damnedest to make them strong enough to survive it.

Edit to Add: Their escapism is not mine to dictate. We all have to find our Groove on our own. "Entitlement" is a word I hear a lot, but I'm not sure that's exactly what it is. It's more like, "You're giving us this craphole - don't pretend we should be happy about it."


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While I do understand some of the general attitude toward the young'uns, I also try to look objectively at the world they stand to inherit.

It ain't exactly an inspiring view.

It's very interesting to see how my 22-year-old sees things, and then compare and contrast that with how my 13-year-old behaves and thinks. There are differences, of course, having to do with real-world experience. But the similarities tell the story.

They both see corruption, vice, hypocrisy, and deceit. We can try to shield them from such realities - and it was easier with the elder of the two - but the fact is, unless you home-school your kids or live out in the woods without a TV and internet access, they're going to be exposed to some of it. And of course we (my wife and I, plus the extended family) try our best to inject our own values in there somewhere, but the sad fact is that it's a pretty awful time in history, and they're plenty smart enough to see that.

Without cracking into the Keg O' Politics too much, I find it difficult in the extreme to temper their angst when they see how our so-called "leaders" act. So I don't really blame them for thinking, "WTF?" at every turn. And that eventually translates into a sort of depression. It's low-grade now, but by the time they're fully in the workforce as "contributing members of society" (whatever that may look like in 10 or 20 years), they're going to be in Full-Blown Panic Mode.

I hope there are fundamental changes for the better before that ever happens, but again - the prognosis is not good. All I can do is try my damnedest to make them strong enough to survive it.

Edit to Add: Their escapism is not mine to dictate. We all have to find our Groove on our own. "Entitlement" is a word I hear a lot, but I'm not sure that's exactly what it is. It's more like, "You're giving us this craphole - don't pretend we should be happy about it."
That was well said. Disc golf is my outlet from this crazy world.

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I agree mostly with Earthrocker but the entitlement to "nothing" is a self fulfilling prophecy.. Work ethic has gone out the window and has been replaced with a "Why should I try?" attitude. The internet has made people tremendously self absorbed and detached from real life experiences.

I love my kid and she's great, better than most but still guilty of doing the minimum effort and she doesn't get that from me.. It's like they think everything they want should just happen on its own, and it probably won't happen so why bother trying.

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Youth is wasted on the young. 90% of millennials are completely worthless stupid lazy whiny sniveling entitled human meatbags.
I'm old enough to be nostalgic for the long ago days when we were called worthless stupidy lazy whining sniveling entitled human meatbags. Yeah, us Baby Boomers. The "Establishment" didn't have a lot nice to say about us in the 60s and 70s, either. Odd to grow up and find out that, sometimes, they were right.

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I agree mostly with Earthrocker but the entitlement to "nothing" is a self fulfilling prophecy.. Work ethic has gone out the window and has been replaced with a "Why should I try?" attitude. The internet has made people tremendously self absorbed and detached from real life experiences.

I love my kid and she's great, better than most but still guilty of doing the minimum effort and she doesn't get that from me.. It's like they think everything they want should just happen on its own, and it probably won't happen so why bother trying.

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Children are the reflection of what they learn. It is a parents' job to teach. No child is genetically "bad" or "entitled", it is bad parenting. A parent is responsible for EVERYTHING a child learns and is exposed to. You can pin the blame elsewhere, but the buck stops at mom and dad.

If you child thinks "why should I try", teach them why. If your child is self absorbed, maybe a routine of Saturday community service work will expose them to the needs of others, if your child is detached from real live experience, it is on you to provide them with real life experience.

"It's like they think everything they want should just happen on its own"? You mean like a child turning out the way you want?

Not really directing this at you Envy, but many parents. Our generation (old farts over 40+) is the real cause, not the children.

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