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Kids, damn kids on my lawn. It never used to be popular and crowded. 27 17.53%
The sun is hotter than it used to be! 17 11.04%
The attitude that Ed's dead long live McBeth.. Don't these kids know where we came from! 0 0%
Trading "hippies" for "hipsters" 14 9.09%
Too many discs! Back in my day it was a putter, mid and driver. 10 6.49%
The reclassification of my current distance driver as a "fairway driver" 4 2.60%
Mowed and manicured courses, back in my day the rough was rough! 3 1.95%
Thumber, tomahawks, OH.. That's not how a disc is supposed to fly dumbass 8 5.19%
Some 14 year old throwing 200' further than me. 52 33.77%
I've got my own complaint.. See below. 19 12.34%
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Old 07-09-2019, 01:24 AM
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Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:40 AM
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Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.
They are likely playing the age protected divisions, which are Advanced divisions and there is no ratings cap. (unless they are categorized as pro w/having taken cash.....I think). Around here, even the MA60 can field a handful of guys with 900+ ratings or so. I guess if you are looking for a more flattened ratings competition, play AM3. I feel your pain though.
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Old 07-09-2019, 08:52 AM
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When I was in college I came across some ancient Latin that translated as: "Kids today, no respect! Things was different when I was their age!" This has literally been going on for thousands of years. Every generation sees the next one as deficient in some way.

But: disc golf brings generations together with something they have in common. I often end up playing with people less than half my age. We have a great time.
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:20 AM
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Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.
Couldn't this question be flipped right back around and if you are concerned with ratings maybe age protected division isn't right, but ratings protected is the person that should be changing divisions should be moving to Rec?

I could see myself making the jump to Pro40+ at some point but I would have to get my game much more consistent. It seems in reach but honestly? i would put that closer to 955 rating than 935 as a jumping point.
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Old 07-09-2019, 01:43 PM
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Couldn't this question be flipped right back around and if you are concerned with ratings maybe age protected division isn't right, but ratings protected is the person that should be changing divisions should be moving to Rec
Valid point, the old dudes with lower ratings could play rec, but it just seems like it's a case of the "woo hoo more merch!" syndrome again. Win more against the old dudes with lower ratings instead of winning less or nothing playing in advanced. You would think once they have taken the time to get that good they would want to challenge themselves more.
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Old 07-09-2019, 01:55 PM
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Question for you old am farts with a 935+ rating. Do you enjoy playing and winning against other old dudes with ratings 50-100 LESS than yours? Why aren't you playing in advanced? Serious question.

I just play the division I am feeling that day. If it is Master Pro, Open or Grandmaster so be it. Usually I just look for the division with the most people and play that. Around here it's usually the Masters division in leagues.
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Valid point, the old dudes with lower ratings could play rec, but it just seems like it's a case of the "woo hoo more merch!" syndrome again. Win more against the old dudes with lower ratings instead of winning less or nothing playing in advanced. You would think once they have taken the time to get that good they would want to challenge themselves more.
Maybe its just different areas. I don't think I ever responded to your thread that had this same idea as a topic, but at what point does someone deserve to win? When is someone challenging themselves and when is someone just playing in a division too far above them?

I have been moving up in ratings. I don't play a lot of tournaments, maybe if I did I would get better and my rating would show it... or maybe I'd move down in rating a bit? I don't know but at 930 rated locally playing in AM40 I am competing with my peers. Sure there are a few guys that are waaaay below but we have 6 or 8 who COULD win and are rated above 915. One guy in the area I think is looking for points to AM worlds is playing Advanced but I would have no worry with him being in my division. I'd take it as a challenge to beat him but I would have to play great.

I understand the pressure on someone when they win AM3 they should move up to AM2 and win and move up to AM1 even if their rating does not show it, but there is a difference between dominating a field you don't belong in and winning because you played well at your level. I would like to play in a division I feel I have a chance of winning AND ability to compete with others.

Based on my never winning a sanctioned event in AM40 in my area then I think i'm in the right spot even if there are a few people who also choose to play AM40 that have no chance. Their level isn't really my concern when I AM competing with peers and I currently have no chance at a win in AM1 or Pro40. That says to me I am where I belong and those who are playing AM40 but can't compete with the guys placing 1 thru 6 or 8 but also can't place in AM1 or Pro40 are fine if they just want to play with others their age but if they have an issue and feel we are too good for this division, those guys should move down to ratings protected and play Am3.

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Old 07-09-2019, 11:27 PM
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FWIW Im happy to play in masters now that I'm old enough.. The year I won advanced men I shot the best two rounds of my life at the local course, back to back. Forced to move up to Open even though my score wouldn't have won it. I played advanced everywhere but the home course. Didn't win anything else in that division since I don't have the distance.

Did win Masters in Cortes tied score with open for the first time last year, happy to have the option to play either, I suppose for woods courses I could move up a division but I rarely place anywhere else... point is I try to do what's fair. I hope other people do too, I'm not big on sandbaggers but I do love the occasional carrot.

(We don't have multiple divisions just advanced, am, masters, open...FTR)

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Old 07-09-2019, 11:41 PM
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This thread reminds me of an event on the ice a few years back. I'm a defenseman, and I was officiating, running clinics a bit at the time so I spent 6 nights a week on the ice. This night it was Beer "B" League. Pretty good players, mostly young, skill and speed a move average. I was having a good night, couple of points, my shot was on from the point, and then about half way through the second period I drew a 2 minute minor on some trumped up checking call where I rubbed someone just a bit too hard. So as I am headed to the penalty box really slowly because I got caught on a long shift, I get cross checked from behind and I said to the second guy "what's that all about?" He said, "we can catch you when you're skating", I laughed and said, "really can't keep up with a guy in his fifties?" The guy was 28.
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Valid point, the old dudes with lower ratings could play rec, but it just seems like it's a case of the "woo hoo more merch!" syndrome again. Win more against the old dudes with lower ratings instead of winning less or nothing playing in advanced. You would think once they have taken the time to get that good they would want to challenge themselves more.
...or they just prefer to play with players of a similar age group for a more pleasant day. Not everyone's motivation for playing is the same- this manifests itself more than anywhere else in the age based divisions.

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