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Old 09-14-2013, 08:33 PM
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Since this site doesn't seem to like to publish posts of any great length, I'll make short, separate posts to address the good points many of you have been making. Hole 3...poor, poor, much maligned 3. I saw a partial title of a post some time back that read, "Is This Supposed To Be A Joke? Number 3..." I was sure that it was another gripe about SPC #3, but it turned out to be a #3 somewhere where the tee is about ten feet in front of a wall of forest.
When I first stood on that ridge, looking out across and around those ball fields to the pine stand across the way, I envisioned, a challenging, sweeping hole that would emphasize precision and placement as well as pure power. As for it not being "fair", I remember what Prof. Pood taught us in college: "Nothing, and I repeat, g*d damned nothing in life is fair!" And as The High Priest of the Church of the Painful Truth always said, "It's not fair!" is the mantra of spoiled little lads and lasses and the liberal left.
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:52 PM
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5 and 17....Both have been reviewed as filler holes that do nothing but get you from point A to point B. Sorry to say, but getting from point A to point B to point to point to point, so that you wind up right back at point A is the primary objective. The tract of land containing 16 and 17 was originally seen as another testy, testy, testy 1000' par 5. Tertiary designer saw the same thing. Thankfully, secondary designer saw it as it should be and is. By designating these holes as par 2's, they do present a unique challenge of being real deuce or die holes, in terms of overall round score against course par. And as course par is about a stroke and a half on the preferred low side of this site's projected SSE, which pleases me greatly. PDGA guidelines do not recommend, but allow for par 2's, because they know, as I've always known that sometimes, lay of the land dictates design.
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:54 PM
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Hole 7 seemed to be one of the rare opportunities for a legitimate par four, with its distance and uphill lie. But play has shown that it is indeed a three. Hell, I've even threed it...from the Blue...don't know if I ever could from the Gold
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:59 PM
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Number 8....the hole everybody loves to hate. It will be better, when we get it returned to a state similar to that when I first walked and surveyed the tract. As for it being a par 6...there are a few already out there. I've even encountered a coupla of 7's during my research for this course. Again, I relied largely on PDGA guidelines for this determination.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:05 PM
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Hole 11...the one hole that has been received and reviewed with nothing but praise...until now. Originally rated as a par 4. During the walk-through and demo, Wiggins, Jr drove the green from the gold and I hit the back of it in two from the blue. With its distance putting it right on the bubble between 3 and 4, it is better as a long, hard three, rather than as a short, easy 4.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:08 PM
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No! No! No!

Not already!!! Two weeks and you stoner jerks are already littering and leaving your bongs on a beautiful new golf course? Same goes for you alcoholics that can’t go 18 holes without a beer. Let me run it down for you jerks: alcohol is not allowed in city parks, marijuana is not allowed in North Carolina, and littering is not allowed anywhere in this entire country. If you think Parks and Rec is going to put up with the few stupid disc golfers who can’t pick up after themselves leaving trash on their crown jewel of a park, you are dead wrong. DO NOT let me catch you littering on this course. I will happily come to court with the officer who arrests you for littering after I call the police out.
Fact of life I'm afraid. Disc golfers (people) litter and smoke. I've already picked up some water bottles and a can of insect repellent the last time I've played. But people in general love to abuse common spaces with their waste, all you have to do is journey into the rough beside that neighborhood to find beer bottles and cans that have been there long before any disc golf course. The more popular the course, the more of this kind of disc golfer (shirtless fratboy chuckers and jugalos) you'll get leaving their crap behind. Just have to humbly pick up after them and threaten to beat the crap out of them when you see them do it.
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Old 09-14-2013, 10:14 PM
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18, especially 18 Gold. An uphill, finishing par 5 following a demanding deuce or die par 2, difficult from the drive by design. It will probably be even more hated when the Mando sign goes up. It is better placed than originally planned and there is a bit more trimming to do. I can't say that the slight down slope of the blue tee is by design, but perhaps it will be an unintended extra challenge like the wind in your face on Cedarock #7.
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Old 09-14-2013, 11:01 PM
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Overall, The SPC is intended to run the gamut from the minimal distance of 150" to perhaps the longest hole in the Carolina's. It is meant to run the range of allowed for pars from 2 to 6. It is hoped to reward pure power, as well as precision and placement. And it is designed so that its par designation will closely coincide with its SSA.
Originally conceived as a White/Blue course, on the advice and input of pro player friends and from much study of PDGA Course Design Guidelines, the designers determined that The SPC is indeed a Blue/Gold layout. Much like ball golf's Pinehurst #2, it is a pro/championship level course that will challenge the best of pros and advanced amateurs, and which will draw and attract lesser amateur players to test and improve their skills.
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Old 09-15-2013, 08:35 AM
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:43 AM
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