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Old 08-12-2010, 10:58 PM
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If extreme durability is what you're looking for, I would recommend the Evo HPP. I haven't thrown them (tried to order one this week, but couldn't find what I'm looking for) so take that with a grain of salt. I have heard that they fly slightly different (less true) from the S plastics I've thrown.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:08 PM
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My Evo Wizard flies great, only difference is it's kept it's low speed fade longer than softer Wizards. It's also as durable as any putter I've used, including Vibrams.

I always got confused when I saw people on here switch from Wizards to Vibrams for durability reasons without ever trying an Evo model.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:01 AM
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^^That's great to hear. I really wish they would've had one of what I wanted now. I am hoping it'll work as my FH/roller/trick shot disc to take the abuse I don't want my Organics to take - they make great short range FH roller discs. I did pick up a Soft & Medium Ion and a VP in hopes of finding a complement to the Wizard. I know they're completely different animals compared to the Wizard, but maybe one of them will take that spot until I can find the right HPP.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:11 AM
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The Evo Wiz will work for that. If you found a particularly stiff Evo one that would probably do nice for rollers.

I haven't really found a need for a second putter mold. I flirted with Magics for a while, and they're great for shorter anhyzer approaches and turnover drives, but I can cover the shots with my Wizards. I have an Ion, VP and Ridge, and while they're all great discs, it's a pick one or the other disc slot for me. They're all fairly close to one another that I think they'd overlap a lot.

For rollers and FH shots with a putter I personally think the Ridge is the best out of what I've tried. Wizards and the others obviously work but the Ridge is really nice for these shots. Compared to a Wizard it's slightly lower profile, has a higher resistance to turning over, and holds a great line when being rolled.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:43 AM
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Great. Yet another putter to try!

I do really like my Organics for those trick shots. I just want to break them in as pure putt & approach discs. I will keep looking for an HPP and will add a stiff Evo to the hunt. I like the feel of the Evo Assassin I have, but it just never made the cut over my TLs.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:19 AM
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I have a chalky Blue Organic "Prototype" Magic that is flexible and really soft. I don't drive with it because it feels like it would warp and lose its shape really easily (plus I have aviars for that). I absolutely love it for putting and short approaches though
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:31 AM
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Someone said it alread but I'll say it again. The only thing inconsistent is the feel of the putter. All three of my non-hpp wizards throw the same when they were brand new. I've got a 172 supersoft that is beat to hell, and floppy. A 175 new supersoft that's as stiff as my 175 new organic. The organic and new 175 supersoft fly the same as the floppier supersoft when new. The opaque HPP red wizard I have (175) is way more overstable than the others and seems to hardly have any glide. Great for upshots and hyzer drives inside about ~250-275
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:02 PM
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a lot of you are in the Midwest just come on out to st Louis play a couple of the courses and stop by gateway discs sports and go thru the entire stacks of putters they have.
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Old 08-13-2010, 06:25 PM
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I'm virtually convinced all discs are run inconsistently, I challenge anyone to find a disc that's the same first run to current run

Millennium does a good job. I currently have four different production runs of Polaris drivers and they're all alike. Over the years I've had maybe six different runs and not noticed any real difference.

As for Gateway, I'd guess that most of their differences are in their putters. I have several S-plastic Elements that were acquired over about a five year span. They also are quite consistent.
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Old 08-14-2010, 03:28 AM
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yeah but Gateway is probably the worst as far as consistency
I have three Voodoos, all ordered from different times and they are all identical to each other. Consistant.
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