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Old 03-14-2017, 02:33 PM
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Yea, if you were fully swinging you should hit the refrigerator. You need more space or just standstill/one leg/one step. Your front leg is bowing out probably because your not stacked enough in posture and you end up taking a backward step in the finish because you never really made it forward during the swing.

Your transition is rushed, not fully extending into the Door Frame Drill with your weight leading. Your throwing arm never gets the elbow forward with the shoulder closed and also looks hugging, dropping the elbow and rounding the release to the right. Your rear arm is not tight to your body. Your rear shoulder should finish over the front foot.
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Old 03-14-2017, 02:41 PM
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Just to further clarify what I mean by not getting on top of the plant, you are rising as you are swinging but your shoulders are well behind your hips. After your back foot comes forward and you follow through, your first stabilizing step is behind you. When you are in balance on the follow through you should kind of pop up on top of the plant and the left foot will swing around your body. Depending on the power/effort of the throw you may step down with the left foot to the side, in front, or sometimes it will swing all the way around on the follow through...but to be clear you will feel your balance on the axis of your plant leg and this left foot step happens well after release (not the beginner thing of people throwing and stepping simultaneously, to be clear for others, but you are not doing this).

Edit: Just saw SW addressed this.

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Old 03-14-2017, 04:10 PM
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I suspect this has to do with the indoor surfaces and doing a "controlled" motion rather than having the room and non-slip footing to let it happen.
It most certainly is, lol. I was trying to keep my body in frame with the camera/phone hanging from the microwave door . I'll be updating ASAP when I finally get to a field.

Here's a couple of me trying to Juice it. This is absolutely the last towel shot I'm posting. THESE ARE LAME! but actually helping

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Old 03-14-2017, 04:23 PM
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Your transition is rushed, not fully extending into the Door Frame Drill with your weight leading.
I assume you mean transition from back swing to pull through?

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Your throwing arm never gets the elbow forward with the shoulder closed
This is kind of a brilliant way to describe the power pocket. Yeah, got tons of work to do! It'll be nice when I can actually throw discs.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:01 PM
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I assume you mean transition from back swing to pull through?
Yes. This is where something heavy helps like a sledgehammer or the Door Frame, you should naturally lead with your body.

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This is kind of a brilliant way to describe the power pocket. Yeah, got tons of work to do! It'll be nice when I can actually throw discs.
It's the crux of the Closed Shoulder Drill and Right Pec Drill.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:36 PM
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See how Nate keeps his front hip/leg more stacked and closed into the plant and is then able to clear it by extending the front knee. You are planting with your front hip open/not stacked and never extend the front knee to brace and clear from on top your hip. Your front knee remains in the same bend and your front foot pressure rolls over to the outside edge of the foot and spins out as your hip is leaking outside your posture.

Also see how Nate's rear hip is more stacked over the rear ankle = more leveraged forward move. And his rear arm is in tight already = more weight forward.


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Old 03-14-2017, 07:23 PM
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Your tempo/shift seems much better. But I also saw that you aren't shifting into a closed front side, instead your front side is opening with the entire throwing motion instead of acting as a brace to throw from. I liken it to the energy stored in the pole of a pole vaulter...but SW22 posted real info/pictures above.

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Old 03-14-2017, 10:28 PM
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So, I lied. I'm a liar. I read these two responses and had to try straightening my leg up.

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never extend the front knee to brace and clear from on top your hip. Your front knee remains in the same bend
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your front side is opening with the entire throwing motion instead of acting as a brace to throw from. I liken it to the energy stored in the pole of a pole vaulter...but SW22 posted real info/pictures above.
I tried doing it and jumping back like Richard Hatton's explanation of bracing, and completely fell over. I took that as a cue I was headed the right direction. I did a few stand stills, then a few with an x-hop. They look, to me, way better, but I had to post and see if I was head the right direction. It seems like I'm not really getting my weight on the inside of my foot, but just landing on my heal and rotating, but idk. It seems like the hips are clearing here.
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:42 PM
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The first one in that video is the best I've seen you do, you are balanced and your left foot wants to come forward. The second one your upper body/spine drift leftward and your instinct is to step backwards with the left foot after the throwing motion (you didn't get onto the brace leg). I'll leave it to SW22 to pick out problems though, I can't really say anything additionally with confidence.
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Old 03-14-2017, 11:39 PM
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Yeah, definitely on way better path. Hard to believe it's the same person in the OP. Moar bracing/crushing the can, and gas pedal before you brace (post #14 "the move" part 1 and 2).
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