Warning to Clubs. Avoid Fly18

[dendrite]

Good morning everyone!

Just wanted to reach out an give a warning for the gentleman Mr. Reese Swinea who runs Fly18 over at Fly18.com. He had essentially stolen nearly 3000$ of our clubs money. Accepted payment in 10/2018 for a new set of pads foro ur local course and has given us excuses and has not delivered the items. (He says he's in hospice). We sent an email from a bogus account the other day to place an "order" and he immediately responded stating he was able to fill the shipment. We have had to retain a lawyer to recoup our costs as he no longer responds to our calls. Be careful and don't go through this. Dozens of club members help raises these funds for this gentleman to try and steal them without consequence.

[_MTL_]

20 years later and this is still happening?

[TheOtherBill]

He basically killed this course before it ever really got going due to terrible non-regulation crappy joke-looking baskets and boring wide open design in an area that had amazing possibilities

https://www.dgcoursereview.com/course.php?id=4291

[Three Putt]

Originally Posted by _MTL_

20 years later and this is still happening?

I think that for the most part the main hustle there is aimed at ball golf courses. The only place I was close enough to that I got any of the rumors about was Edgebrook, but what was going on or not going on was pretty much between the guys at the pro shop and Reese. Other than the fact that the course eventually closed, the disc golf community didn't suffer from what did or didn't happen there.

The case of the OP is different, of course.

[dendrite]

We have retained an attorney. Even if our costs are a net loss it's worth it to fight back against scumbag behavior like this. He originally sold us the teepads for our course in 1990s. No issues at that time, but it seems he has become quite the shady character. Just didn't want anyone else to fall victim to this nonsense. Sucks to believe people can act like this in our small loving sport.

[Cgkdisc]

I didn't know he was still in business. Hadn't heard a peep about Fly 18 for a long time.

[dendrite]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

I didn't know he was still in business. Hadn't heard a peep about Fly 18 for a long time.

Seems to just be in the business of taking money from people with no intentions of delivering.

[TheOtherBill]

Originally Posted by Three Putt

I think that for the most part the main hustle there is aimed at ball golf courses.

That's exactly what happened at River Chase. It seems they got hustled pretty good, even paid Reese's airfare twice - to come 'install' those garbage baskets and to be there for the opening.

Couldn't even have a sanctioned tournament there since the baskets were ridiculously awful, and never mentioned that to the owners who paid full price for them expecting a 'championship' course.

[DavidSauls]

Originally Posted by TheOtherBill

That's exactly what happened at River Chase. It seems they got hustled pretty good, even paid Reese's airfare twice - to come 'install' those garbage baskets and to be there for the opening.

Couldn't even have a sanctioned tournament there since the baskets were ridiculously awful, and never mentioned that to the owners who paid full price for them expecting a 'championship' course.

He told quite a tale at the official opening, about bringing a tournament there that would be bigger than the USDGC.

Those Dr. Fred baskets were eyesores for a golf course, and the design was a waste of property. I'm not sure if it would have succeeded at any rate, but that didn't help.

[wellsbranch250]

After looking at the basket pictures on River chase, and a little extra research, I realized ive played a Fly 18 course. Horrible baskets. Horrible rubber tees that according to early reviews were in disrepair after 3 years. Not surprisingly, the course was recently closed. Its interesting to note that Ken Climo is the credited designer. not sure if that's true.
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Dendrite, I hope you are able to recover some of the clubs losses.