Axiom Fireball

[eric40817]

Originally Posted by wims

Judging by eric40817's description in this post it sounds like it's a longer, but more overstable motion rather than a less overstable one

That post was quoting the ad for that disc. It was actually said to be a more overstable Tesla.

[Toro71]

Love the stamp...but I can't help thinking what might have been...

[Halcón]

I disagree that this is a more overstable Motion. That disc is pure beef, and really is more of a specialty disc, IMO. The Fireball is definitely overstable, but is more workable. The Motion wants to start fading right away, where the Fireball can be willed straighter, for a longer portion of the flight.

I was trying to throw annys, and although it was difficult, I could get a little bit of an "S." The Motion just laughs in my face if I try that.

[jcassidy1990]

Originally Posted by Halcón

I disagree that this is a more overstable Motion. That disc is pure beef, and really is more of a specialty disc, IMO. The Fireball is definitely overstable, but is more workable. The Motion wants to start fading right away, where the Fireball can be willed straighter, for a longer portion of the flight.

I was trying to throw annys, and although it was difficult, I could get a little bit of an "S." The Motion just laughs in my face if I try that.

So would you liken the Fireball to a longer Resistor?

The Motion is similar HSS to a Resistor but seems to have a super charged LSS.
From the initial reviews it sounds like the Fireball is super HSS but has the hard/yet manageable fade like the Resistor.

[Mike C]

For me the Fireball is less OS and more workable than a Motion. If a Motion is a longer, more aggressive Resistor, the Fireball is more like a longer Shock. I can rip it low and flat and it won't turn over at all, but it will still get 400'. I don't know if I could get a Motion 400' on a flat, low throw.

For a typical power drive (75-90%) thrown flat or with a touch of anny, I was getting them in the 360-420' range. I could squeak more D out of them with height and anny, but those were getting closer to distance lines rather than golf lines. Backhand on the course I'd probably use this in the 330-400' range.

I might not bag one right now since my N Wrath is still fairly beefy, but I think I'll compliment my Wraths with them once I break it in. Kind of how I pair a Vector with my Axis, Envy with Ions etc.

[xlhammy]

Originally Posted by Halcón

I disagree that this is a more overstable Motion. That disc is pure beef, and really is more of a specialty disc, IMO. The Fireball is definitely overstable, but is more workable. The Motion wants to start fading right away, where the Fireball can be willed straighter, for a longer portion of the flight.

I was trying to throw annys, and although it was difficult, I could get a little bit of an "S." The Motion just laughs in my face if I try that.

Totally agree 100%.

[brutalbrutus]

SO maybe for comparisons sake, the motion is more monster(ish) and the fireball more like a starfire?

[Halcón]

Originally Posted by Mike C

For me the Fireball is less OS and more workable than a Motion. If a Motion is a longer, more aggressive Resistor, the Fireball is more like a longer Shock.

This. I also mentioned longer Shock in my initial review.

[Mike C]

[gcr_russell]

I got similar (although shorter) results to Mik C with the Fireball. Unfortunately we had trouble tracking the shots with the camera but I also threw these on some forehand roller lines and they went very straight for a very long time. It looks like I may have a new shot on my arsenal now.