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Old 09-29-2020, 08:56 PM
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Nice! Had no idea that was included in courtesy violations
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Old 09-29-2020, 09:36 PM
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You can already do that if the water is defined as casual.
Yeah but I’m saying...it’s all casual. Can you find your disc and throw in waist-deep water? No penalty.

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Old 09-30-2020, 10:56 AM
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Yeah but I’m saying...it’s all casual. Can you find your disc and throw in waist-deep water? No penalty.
Ehhh...I don't think that should be the case. There are some bodies of water we're just not allowed to venture into so making it casual or OB ought to be up to the TD/LD. We have a pond at our home course for example (which is a very easy carry) where we are specifically prohibited from swimming in.
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Old 09-30-2020, 01:22 PM
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starter pack tournament would be awesome!
I haven't seen a 'true' starter pack tournament, but I have seen tournaments put on by different brands where they supply you the discs you use. Unfortunately, they aren't sanctioned tournaments....but they are fun if you ever get to try one.

I've done an Ace Race, where we got two discs (they were mid-ranges) and that's all we could use.

I've done a Legacy Confidence Clash, where I got three Legacy discs (putter, midrange, fairway driver) and that's all the could be used.

A 'true' starter pack tournament could be loads of fun....get back to the basics.
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Old 09-30-2020, 07:44 PM
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Ehhh...I don't think that should be the case. There are some bodies of water we're just not allowed to venture into so making it casual or OB ought to be up to the TD/LD. We have a pond at our home course for example (which is a very easy carry) where we are specifically prohibited from swimming in.

"806.04 Relief Area

A. A relief area is an area designated by the Director from which a disc may not be played, or any in-bounds area that players are prohibited by law from entering. A relief area is played as an out-of-bounds area with the exception that no penalty throw is assessed to a player whose disc comes to rest in a relief area."
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Old 10-01-2020, 06:50 AM
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Less rules=more fun.
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Old 10-01-2020, 08:42 PM
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The only reason I would be against the DQ is that I know of cases where someone signed up for a multi-day tournament and then was unable to make one day. If they were DQ'd, they would be out the entire tournament. The +4 a hole still allows them to play in the tournament.
I realize that I seem to be the only one that sees the other side of the coin . . . . there's a 3 hour rain delay that causes the tournament to go waaaaaayyyy past any reasonable estimate of when the thing should end, a player has to be at some unmissable thing that happens AFTER THE LONGEST ROUND IN THE HISTORY OF THIS TOURNAMENT EVER BY 3 HOURS, pick something -- a non-refundable flight, her wedding, his mother's 50th surprise birthday party, work, anything that forces the player to leave early -- that player will get DQ'd (please don't quote the rules and tell me it's at the TD's discretion -- the player that leaves early gets DQ'd and it's because of the history/culture of the sport and when Player X is staring the TD in the face for the cash that the player that left for the unmissable thing and would have beat Player X by 8 cajillion throws the TD says -- "Hey they left -- they're DQ'd here's your cash!!) and the player that over-slept because they drank too much the night before and misses the first 2 baskets takes par plus four and gets whatever that happens to get them.

I'm the only one -- it's such a simple rule to change and so silly the way it is . . .. either we get to not play and get par +4 or not play and get DQ'd . . .. just PICK ONE . . .. I know the history, I know why it's stupid, it doesn't make it not stupid.

Did I type that out-loud? Meh -- bored. Please don't think it's ever happened to me because it hasn't -- I've been late, got penalized, got to play . . . .the irony being I was late because I wasn't cashing no matter what so the point was moot. Still a dumb rule.

Most likely I'll be back in 5/6 yrs when this rolls around again on the msg board . .. . if I'm late -- start without me!!
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Old 10-01-2020, 09:34 PM
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Ain't gonna sugar coat this...I've read paulw's post like 4 times and I still have no idea what is going on here. Maybe I'm stupid so I guess I'm gonna need someone to dumb it down for me or something...

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Old 10-01-2020, 09:51 PM
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Score capping resolves all of this being late or leaving early. The only rules needed in addition to allowing max scores are the player who leaves must inform the TD or even players in the group that they will not finish the round. In addition, a player cannot post a complete round of capped scores. They have to at least play say half of the holes in the round to show they were there or it's a DNF for that round.
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Old 10-01-2020, 10:46 PM
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Ain't gonna sugar coat this...I've read paulw's post like 4 times and I still have no idea what is going on here. Maybe I'm stupid so I guess I'm gonna need someone to dumb it down for me or something...
Sorry. The rule I want changed is the one where it’s ok to come late but you can’t leave early.

It really impacts next to no one it’s just one of those things that for whatever reason bugs me.

I used to think you should be dq’ed either way, now I think you should get par plus four either way ....just make it the same.

The long post above, disregard. No worries.
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