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Old 11-01-2017, 05:35 PM
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Im unfortunately aware they are OOP, I started bagging them a couple of months before the news broke out. Im deciding whether or not to replace them with the Machete.

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Still plenty of Crushes out there, so I wouldn't worry about it. And if you do have to drop in the Machete down the line, I think they'll cover that spot in your bag.
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:38 PM
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Picked up a Z Machete (173-174g) and got about 10 throws with it during my round today. I only threw it FH wanting to see if it could fill the void of the recently deceased Z Crush. First impression: total meathook similar to some FAF Firebirds I've had. I really had to muscle this thing to keep it straight before having it fade out. I didn't notice a whole lot of skip at the end of the flight because it wanted to get to the ground badly. It does have a comfortable feel to it but just not sure if is what I'm looking for. May need to beat it in to get a more workable Crush type flight out of it.

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Old 12-05-2017, 02:56 PM
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I loved the Crush, one of my favorites in the past . too bad that didn't keep making it. The Pulse is similar - I hope they don't discontinue that too - did they? meh
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Old 12-05-2017, 03:20 PM
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First impression: total meathook similar to some FAF Firebirds I've had. I really had to muscle this thing to keep it straight before having it fade out. I didn't notice a whole lot of skip at the end of the flight because it wanted to get to the ground badly.
I agree, super beef like a FAF Firebird. It will skip like mad if you aren't starting it on some flex to keep it straight. I can't keep it straight with a flat release or even headwind. I've thrown it in 20+MPH wind and it still had positive HSS.
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The flatter ones are more stable than the slighty domey ones. Domish ones are like predators in my experience.
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I loved the Crush, one of my favorites in the past . too bad that didn't keep making it. The Pulse is similar - I hope they don't discontinue that too - did they? meh
I think that the Pulse is also OOP, culled earlier this year. But the Discraft website still shows it.

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So I finally ordered a Machete, but it is in ESP plastic. Anyone have experience with these? I would assume the are a little softer and wear in a little more so if the Z's are super Beef the ESP should be Beef, but like, a lean burger. Hoping the ESP is flat and gets smoothly worn in for a reliable disc flight.
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So I finally ordered a Machete, but it is in ESP plastic. Anyone have experience with these? I would assume the are a little softer and wear in a little more so if the Z's are super Beef the ESP should be Beef, but like, a lean burger. Hoping the ESP is flat and gets smoothly worn in for a reliable disc flight.
I am also curious on these. I have a used Z en route. I wish the colors were better in these “swirly” esps though.. pretty ugly.
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I am also curious on these. I have a used Z en route. I wish the colors were better in these “swirly” esps though.. pretty ugly.
They had some pretty ones but those sold first. All that's left are the earth tones...
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:25 PM
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So I finally ordered a Machete, but it is in ESP plastic. Anyone have experience with these? I would assume the are a little softer and wear in a little more so if the Z's are super Beef the ESP should be Beef, but like, a lean burger. Hoping the ESP is flat and gets smoothly worn in for a reliable disc flight.
If all the Swirl ESP is a consistent blend (which is what I've found with Discraft), it's stiffer than the LE ESP they ran the Buzzz OS and Nuke OS in for the last Ledgestone. Swirl ESP Buzzzes were too OS for what I want out of a Buzzz...don't know how the Machete will fly in it, as I didn't end up pulling the trigger on them. I like my OS discs to stay OS as long as possible.
I bet it will be stiff, though. Let us know how it flies!
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