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Yeah, I think Discraft might disagree with that assertion. I think Paul's salary is more than paying for itself.
DD does not have a Paul. Not even close. It was a solid business decision FOR DD, your manufacturer's mileage may vary.
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Old 01-09-2020, 06:26 PM
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DD does not have a Paul. Not even close. It was a solid business decision FOR DD, your manufacturer's mileage may vary.
Do rember that Paul McBeth and Paul Ulibari are on Team Discraft. The Discraft company was one of the first outside of Wham-O to take disc competition in general serious as a company. Yeah Discraft has been a company longer then Innova making old non flight ring Ultrastar and the Prostyler and Skystyler as freestyle discs in the mid 1970's that worked fairly well as pre beveled edge disc golf disc bring the disc were heavier then the normal disc stuff that Wham-O was making. Just that Discraft saw a market for Disc Golf in the 1980's they made discs specifically for that sport.

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Do rember that Paul McBeth and Paul Ulibari are on Team Discraft.
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Old 01-09-2020, 10:53 PM
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Now that Both Paul's are healthy yes.
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Old 01-10-2020, 08:15 AM
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Yeah, I think Discraft might disagree with that assertion. I think Paul's salary is more than paying for itself.
...and likely the entirety of the rest of their team.
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I recall when we first started playing disc golf, we purchased starter sets at a sporting goods store. At that time, I think there was only 1 starter set available, but it had graphics advertising the world champs of the day. It was years before we became aware of local tournaments and started playing those, but we had bought some discs already that were put out by other manufacturers. It is difficult for me to know how much our purchasing decisions were driven by sponsorship of pros, but I think it would be a factor for most people today. Still, I think everyone wants to try everything eventually.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:03 PM
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Yes they have peaked. Losing a 5X Champ and Zach A who won and worlds says enough. They were behind on making contracts many other methods to help support players...many more have left Grady, Dustin K, and Coda H to name a few of their bigger names. They currently have Nikko, Eric O, and Zach M, and Paige S. Paige is a top 5 female with Kristen T, but their MPO side is at best maybe in the top 20-30 range.
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Yes they have peaked. Losing a 5X Champ and Zach A who won and worlds says enough. They were behind on making contracts many other methods to help support players...many more have left Grady, Dustin K, and Coda H to name a few of their bigger names. They currently have Nikko, Eric O, and Zach M, and Paige S. Paige is a top 5 female with Kristen T, but their MPO side is at best maybe in the top 20-30 range.
First, you're conflating three separate teams. Grady Shue was Latitude, not DD. Coda and Nikko were/are on Westside, not DD.

Second, you are forgetting Chris Clemons.

Third, I'm not sure how far behind they really were/are contract-wise. McBeth's deal broke all sorts of molds and it was only a year ago. DD is hardly the only company that until recently relied on handshake deals rather than legal documents. The landscape is changing quickly, and frankly, I think we might be seeing a bit of a bubble in the sponsorship realm. Latitude last year and DD this year might be setting themselves up to avoid getting burned if/when it bursts. I really think people are over-estimating the kind of money these companies generate and/or have laying around to pay players. Discraft (and Innova) are probably the exceptions rather than the rule in the manufacturing game. The game is growing, but that doesn't mean companies should be outspending that growth.

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...and likely the entirety of the rest of their team.
Well Paige Pierce might help pay for the team too. A few former players that liked her playing style might copy what she does now.

Oh and MJ saving the Comet from a possible demise in the 2010's when he got back on a hot streak for a few NT or PT tournaments.
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