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Old 10-20-2020, 08:28 PM
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Don't really need a critique for this one :P

I didn't focus on hammerfisting with these throws and the form looks "less bad" - definitely added about 20-30ft. to my average throw.

After recording this one I looked at it and did another 3-4 sets of throwing and think I threw one about 470 (possibly more) in a slight tailwind hitting one of the neighbors fences. When I am in more of the tilted spiral position and the throw starts it feels really slow, like, it feels like you're going to throw it about 150 but then it just booms.

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Old 10-23-2020, 02:18 AM
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SW,

Clarifying question; you hold a backhand position in the back and follow through with a hammerfist position, right? If you hold hammerfist the entire way it forces the nose up it seems like.

For about 12 holes yesterday I threw a lot of discs up in the air like 30-40 feet instead of on line drives like I was wanting to. It stopped after I started slowing my feet down but I'm wondering what would be causing that problem?
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Old 10-23-2020, 03:13 AM
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I think so, there should be some arm rotation like throwing a punch to extend fully/safely.
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Old 10-29-2020, 02:51 AM
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You can kinda see it on camera but I figured out why I come over the top - or rather, I felt it.

I push my right ear to my right shoulder in an effort to get my shoulder/arm to reach back farther and the farther I *feel* I'm reaching back the more over the top it goes. In reality I'm actually not reaching farther back my upper body is just getting farther away from the reachback :P

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Old 10-29-2020, 03:35 AM
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Yeah, you get really leaning far away from target over rear leg, rather than turning/pivoting away from target and your center and disc staying more balanced/leveraged inside rear leg. It may feel like the backswing is shorter or more compact while elongating the backswing more from your center, kind of weird.

You are moving the door frame around some distance like a foot or more from the top of your backswing to the time you finally plant front heel. So the top of your backswing/when disc starts moving targetward, you would be leaning back outside your rear foot and have a hard time leveraging your weight against door frame from rear leg.

Then when you are about plant front heel you are leaning forward and pulling door frame with your shoulder weight over your hips, instead of your hip weight pulling the shoulders and door frame.
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:43 AM
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Yes!

Now that I know/feel what the problem is all of that above makes sense beyond just the "logic." Should be super easy to fix, honestly.

Next time it's above 30 degrees out here I'll head to the field and record another video.
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Old 11-01-2020, 03:59 PM
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Just checking in to say that it is so impressive that you can throw 500 feet, farther than many pros, and that there is still room for improvement as SW is pointing out. It is truly fascinating to me. Keep up the good work!
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Old 11-03-2020, 10:11 AM
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Welp, was still doing it for 3-4 rounds.

Tried something different; kept my chest/shoulders parallel to the shot line during the X-step and then after the X-step tried to pretend I was reaching to pick something up off my left foot and that seemed to help. Definitely added about 20 feet on average.

This is kinda frustrating :P
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Old 11-03-2020, 10:30 AM
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Rather than turning/pivoting away from target and your center and disc staying more balanced/leveraged inside rear leg. It may feel like the backswing is shorter or more compact while elongating the backswing more from your center, kind of weird.
Wait - not actually frustrating.

I get this 100% now.

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Old 11-06-2020, 04:56 AM
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Gonna take me some time to get this one down - I can get out to 430 without many problems but pushing past that is tough. When I try to go any farther I just end up back in old habits.

I noticed that I was already slightly leaned over in my X-step so when I would go through the rest of the motion the lean over the top would just get accentuated.

So now I understand the importance of leading with the hip before anything else; I was trying to make the analogy a few posts ago but I'm seeing it in a similar way to a bow and arrow where the hip is the bow handle. I'm trying to focus on keeping my upper spine slightly tilted away from the target as I stride after the X-step.

I can go through the motion slowly and hit 430+ but I can't maintain that motion with any kind of pace, yet.

Feels like I'm getting closer.

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