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Old 02-16-2017, 08:12 PM
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Something I was thinking about was Ricky Wysocki - I spend some free time watching older tournaments and I was re-watching his performance at the Worlds and his form just doesn't look powerful. Like, watching him throw it looks like the disc shouldn't be crushed so far but it does.

Specifically; this throw:

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I like your idea and will start doing the same thing. I went out and threw today and I think it's a little better - not as much tipping/opening up but it's still there. What I focused on was keeping my planted heel up until my other foot pushed off the ground to allow the planted heel to come down and "crush the can." That's how it's supposed to be, right? The can gets crushed because your left foot starts pushing off the ground?
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:58 PM
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Pretty much, in order to maximize shift, rear heel should be going airborne as front heel comes down. I wouldn't advise mimicking Wysocki's form, it works for him, but hard to replicate and not really ideal.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:25 AM
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SW,

Yeah, not looking to mimic his form; a while back you told me it would be more beneficial to me to look into guys like GG and Avery and that's what I'm sticking to. With Wysocki I was just pointing out how deceiving it looks and was reflecting on this notion that what "feels" powerful likely isn't.

I'll head back out in a few days after going through the videos a few more times.
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:31 AM
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OH! Also, anybody ever have issues with palm pain running from between middle and ring finger - it actually feels like the bone itself. The line the rim of the disc makes in my palm is where I'm having pain at and I'm not sure why. Ripping too hard? Right between my middle and ring finger about an inch below in my palm.
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Old 02-17-2017, 08:23 PM
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Grip - disc is too low in your hand, probably too far in the back of your palm as well. You have the disc angled nose up big time - either to compensate for your tipping or vise versa.

Use Robbie's 2 finger grip, then modify it by adding your fingers without changing the index/thumb pressure/position:


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Old 02-18-2017, 04:49 PM
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Got it, SW. I remember watching that video but I thought it was between the middle and ring finger through your forearm and not index finger through forearm. Made the adjustment and basically throw with 3 fingers (almost no pinky) and it added a good 25-30 ft. instantly.

I've absolutely gotta figure out a way to make myself brace during a real throw. I notice it most with McBeth; CoG behind on his throw, noticeable brace against hip, etc. Gonna to back through all the videos and see what I come up with.
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Old 02-19-2017, 04:01 PM
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SW and all,

I was about to ask how do you brace against your hip without throwing skyward but I might be thinking about things incorrectly.

So, I know the line from hip to hip, and the line from shoulder to shoulder should be parallel, so, when you brace against your hip doesn't that send the "line" skyward so you throw into the sky?

How do you brace while throwing a line drive?
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Old 02-19-2017, 09:18 PM
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Nevermind, I'm starting to get it. Except now I'm throwing line drives around 325-350 (maybe farther, honestly) and they're staying like 10 ft. off the ground the whole time.

I kept watching the backhand power video and bracing without a disc to feel it. Definitely know what it feels like to brace against the hip now!

Oh, and I played leagues this morning and shot my best round. Changing my grip to one that's proper has improved my accuracy a lot. Its ridiculous how small things make such huge differences.

I'll get a video up tomorrow, hopefully!
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:34 PM
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Didn't look at this video before uploading. 2nd throw felt the best and went about 360.



EDIT: Ughhh... I'm still doing it!
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1. Grip, your thumb is way out there! You want the thumb pressed against the rim edge through the flight plate. This will help throw with the disc nose down and give your more leverage from your thumb to the disc.
2. Level your swing! Keep the disc at the same height/ line you want to throw.
3. Closed stance! Front foot planted toward left side of tee from rear foot and turned back 90 degrees or more.




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