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Old 10-25-2020, 10:23 PM
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What other kind of throws do you want to use inside circle 2?
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Old 10-25-2020, 10:44 PM
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What other kind of throws do you want to use inside circle 2?
Personally? Only one comes to mind, which is a step out forehand roller (though it doesn't have to apply just to rollers) where I have to commit my body around a tree or bush toward the target. It doesn't come up super often, but it does come up. Regardless, this sounds like the better direction for a solution than changing rules that would apply to all throws.

But still, I don't see broad circle 2 rule enforcement as being a thing, at least the way disc golf is today. Certainly not in the same way we casual-but-serious players connect to circle one. If we're ever at a point where circle 2 is as well-defined and apparent to us as circle 1, then maybe that will be a thing. We are used to bro-estimating or stepping off 10 meters. I think at the top level, circle 2 is already pretty much a thing that could be enforced without too much of a problem. But there is something different about it as it filters down to us, whether I am explaining that well or not. It's just out of scale. This doesn't have to be true forever though.

Maybe the circle should be 50 feet as a compromise. We are mixing feet and meters in an ugly way that I'm going to pretend offends me, so let's right that (totally real) outrage while we're at it.

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Old 10-25-2020, 10:50 PM
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What other kind of throws do you want to use inside circle 2?
It depends on whether the mysterious suggested rule incorporates the 20-meter circle, or not.

If it does, then the main issue is judging where C2 is.

If not -- if it's a solution like "no follow through", without specifying C2 -- then it affects long fairway shots as well.
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Old 10-25-2020, 11:44 PM
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I guess I don't get it. If you just remove C1 and apply the rules to C2, what is the problem. If you want to throw a roller, knock yourself out, just don't run up or follow through. Shrug, I don't jump or step putt. I can easily stand and deliver any throw to the basket from 100 feet. I honestly don't understand who cannot.

Not advocating for the rule change, but I guess it does not really impact me.

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Old 10-26-2020, 12:04 AM
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Shrug, I don't jump or step putt. I can easily stand and deliver any throw to the basket from 100 feet. I honestly don't understand who cannot.
That's a leak in your game.

If you can putt from 100, you should step putt from 120.
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:58 AM
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Wouldn't matter. You would simply say that the throw be made before/at the time the foot hits the ground. If necessary, change the rule to require step putts to be completed with the forward foot landing on the 20x30cm lie behind the mark instead of in front of it.
To me, this seems to be the solution for the issue of step putt foot faults. Do whatever you want to behind the lie, just release the disc from your legal lie.

Personally, I don’t have any issue with step putts. If we need super slow-mo cams to determine if a foot fault was committed...

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Old 10-26-2020, 01:01 AM
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That's a leak in your game.

If you can putt from 100, you should step putt from 120.
Lol....thanks for the tip. Now convince me to go jumping around and creating a bunch more moving parts. I can stand and throw a frisbee down a fairway from 200 ft. If you want to explain the advantages of the 220 ft jump putt, I am all ears.

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Old 10-26-2020, 01:04 AM
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I can putt out to ~50-55 feet switching discs from a Magnet/Proline Titanic at ~35-40 feet max for putting to a Shark in Pro or Star both ~175 grams for putting or at least try knowing only 40% will make it in. After 50 feet I have to use a backhand approach with my Shark going on a less power standstill shot then a short midrange/long approach for my game or a driving putter shot with my same Star Shark used for long putts/approach. The Disc Switch is something I started when I made a putt out at ~45-50 feet with a Shark, my Pro one by mistake using the wrong disc. Sometimes I use my 166 gram Lighting Prostyle #2 Upshot from 2005 for a slight US shot that my Pro Shark can't do. I have a max weight Lighting Prostyle #2 Upshot for when my Pro Shark a slight minor OS putter wears in to slight US and is not useable anymore.
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To me, this seems to be the solution for the issue of step putt foot faults. Do whatever you want to behind the lie, just release the disc from your legal lie.

Personally, I don’t have any issue with step putts. If we need super slow-mo cams to determine if a foot fault was committed...
We don't with a number of them even by good pro players in real speed on camera are clearly foot faulting. Then MJ picking up the mini/lie before he is supposed to on most putter shots in the 34 foot circle, before the disc comes to rest or OB.
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To me, this seems to be the solution for the issue of step putt foot faults. Do whatever you want to behind the lie, just release the disc from your legal lie.

Personally, I don’t have any issue with step putts. If we need super slow-mo cams to determine if a foot fault was committed...
I don't with a number of them even by good pro players in real speed on camera are clearly foot faulting. Then MJ picking up the mini/lie before he is supposed to on most missed or knowing they are going to miss putter shots in the 34 foot circle, before the disc comes to rest or is declared OB by the rules in place for the tournament and PDGA rules too.
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