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Old 04-04-2020, 01:11 PM
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It was flat out denied that it's airborne at start, but it does seem to spread way faster than any droplet infection. One article had theory that it could spread by talking without face cover to someone within C1 range and possibly in C2 too.
Traditionally airborne infection routes have been categorized as either:

Droplet spread: large particles land directly on mucous membranes in the eyes, nose, or mouth. This is a close-range route of infection because droplets are large and fall to the ground fairly quickly. Traditionally it is thought that influenza primarily spreads this way.

True aerosol spread: Smaller infectious particles that remain in the air for a long time, and are inhaled into the lungs. Measles and tuberculosis are examples of diseases that spread this way. Measles, for example, is 4 to 8 times more infectious compared with SARS-CoV-2 or influenza.

Short-range aerosol transmission is now being recognized as a potential route of infection for diseases such as influenza and Covid-19. Short-range aerosols are, as the name suggests, transmitted at short distances. But instead of being deposited directly on mucous membranes, short-range aerosols are small enough to be inhaled into the respiratory system.

Clearly we do not know everything we would like to know about SARS-CoV-2 transmission. Spread of COVID-19 appears to be comparable to pandemic flu (as opposed to seasonal flu). The common factor may be lack of preexisting immunity rather than a different transmission route. And asymptomatic transmission seems to play a role compared to SARS and MERS, where people do not shed virus until they are very sick (and usually hospitalized).

For more reading: COMMENTARY: COVID-19 transmission messages should hinge on science

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True or not, playing in big groups is idiotic at best when we know so little about this virus.
Completely agree.
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:46 PM
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And asymptomatic transmission seems to play a role compared to SARS and MERS, where people do not shed virus until they are very sick (and usually hospitalized).
I think this is what covidiots have trouble wrapping their feeble minds around...
"I feel perfectly fine."

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Old 04-04-2020, 02:05 PM
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I think this is what covidiots have trouble wrapping their feeble minds around...
"I feel perfectly fine."
I tell folks it is like bloodborne pathogen training.

In the old days, people freaked out if they were handling blood/body fluids from an HIV or hepatitis patient. But often the disease status of the blood was unknown. So the guidance was changed - we should act as if ALL blood/body fluids was positive for HIV or hepatitis. People took reasonable precautions and fewer folks were infected.

Right now each of us should assume that we, and everyone around us, has a greater than zero chance of being COVID-19 positive.

And act accordingly.

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Old 04-05-2020, 04:02 PM
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There are a couple of active DGCR members in the Carolinas who are posting on local DG FB pages about planned trips. They are clearly not new players nor can play the 'I didn't know' card.

I would like to see local disc golf clubs being far more aggressive about implementing the 'do not play' policy. I'd think clubs would have the power to remove baskets themselves and/or revoke club memberships of people violating ordinances.
On a local club Facebook page today someone asked if the club mini was still on. The predictable answer was He!! Yes!

Someone else announced that he'd be bringing a bunch of plastic to sell. These guys have continued to play at least once a day and are totally undeterred by the various stay-at-home directives. As long as there is a loophole for being outside while complying with Social Distancing directives, they are going to keep on going...

And these aren't a bunch of kids either. Some of these guys are in their 40's and 50's.

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Old 04-05-2020, 04:51 PM
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On a local club Facebook page today someone asked if the club mini was still on. The predictable answer was He!! Yes!

Someone else announced that he'd be bringing a bunch of plastic to sell. These guys have continued to play at least once a day and are totally undeterred by the various stay-at-home directives. As long as there is a loophole for being outside while complying with Social Distancing directives, they are going to keep on going...

And these aren't a bunch of kids either. Some of these guys are in their 40's and 50's.
You would think the experienced members, who have had to fight the negative disc golf stereotype for decades would be the ones most wanting to make sure disc golfers don't create a new negative stereotype. If any sport needs to do everything in its power to create a positive image, it would be disc golf. It's going to be hard to feel any sympathy for any locales that lose courses due to the actions of some players, and inaction of others. Sadly, this is why we can't have nice things is playing out loud and clear right now.
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Old 04-05-2020, 05:52 PM
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Old 04-05-2020, 05:56 PM
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Local page here just posted a picture 1 hour ago of 6 golfers with serious bags (not newbies) bunched up close to a teepad. No doubt not following guidelines. The picture was taken by someone at the park who sent it to the parks who sent it to the club.

The people in the picture owned up to it being them (someone else would have known who they were anyway) and said it was no big deal because it was two groups of 3 and they were only there for 20-30 seconds when the lead group walked off. Just long enough for the picture to be taken.

As of now the people in the group are saying they did nothing wrong but if they did it wasn't a big deal.

I think the course was Idlewild.
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Old 04-05-2020, 06:28 PM
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Local page here just posted a picture 1 hour ago of 6 golfers with serious bags (not newbies) bunched up close to a teepad. No doubt not following guidelines. The picture was taken by someone at the park who sent it to the parks who sent it to the club.

The people in the picture owned up to it being them (someone else would have known who they were anyway) and said it was no big deal because it was two groups of 3 and they were only there for 20-30 seconds when the lead group walked off. Just long enough for the picture to be taken.

As of now the people in the group are saying they did nothing wrong but if they did it wasn't a big deal.

I think the course was Idlewild.
Lots of people want to give themself an A+ for social distancing when the data would score many people at a lower grade. Every interaction is an opportunity to screw up.

How many people did those 6 people go interact with? At best, they live alone. At second best, they “only” increased the possibility for exposure for loved ones they live with. Not a big deal at all.

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Nothing ever is a big deal to some people until they or someone close to them gets sick or dies. ridiculous.....

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Lots of people want to give themself an A+ for social distancing when the data would score many people at a lower grade. Every interaction is an opportunity to screw up.

How many people did those 6 people go interact with? At best, they live alone. At second best, they “only” increased the possibility for exposure for loved ones they live with. Not a big deal at all.
And the people they live with are not interacting with anyone else? You don't get it.

On top of that this is how courses get closed.

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