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Old 02-22-2019, 08:41 AM
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The "Right Now" bag lineup. I have a goal this year of not fiddling with my lineup (in terms of molds) after April 1, so I still have some time to have fun.

Distance drivers
169 ESP Surge - beat up a bit, will S-turn out of a hyzer or hold a turn for a long time.
173 ESP Surge, Nate Doss 3x - has a little high speed turn under normal conditions. Primary long distance disc
174 ESP Surge - new, flatter. Slightly more overstable for most windy plays
172 Z Force - new, headwind driver or when I need to shape a long flex shot

Fairway drivers
172 Z Predator - flat as fk. really overstable, flex forehands
174 Z Predator - some dome, some wear. general purpose overstable driver
174 Ti Undertaker - workhorse stable
168 Z undertaker - lighter and more workable, will hold an anhyzer
173 X Undertaker - new, beating in to fill the mantis slot
174 Ti Mantis - woodsy finesse turnover driver

Midranges
172 Big Z Drone - not sure if I need or want it, but auditioning a very overstable mid for fun. Probably won't make the bag, would probably favor a very overstable Wasp.
178 Z FLX Color Glow Wasp - Slightly overstable mid
177 Jawbreaker Wasp - stable mid, breaking in to turnover cycle
178 MJ Z Comet - new, main turnover midrange, also for finesse lines in the woods.


Putters
174 X Soft Ringer GT - more usably overstable approach putter for me. I don't need a dumpy zone for this slot.
173 ESP Challenger - Main driving/stable upshot putter.
174 D Challenger - beat, used for short turnover drives and approaches, and C2+ putting
174 D Challenger (x2) - matching pair of putting only putters.
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Old 03-04-2019, 11:08 AM
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Got a lot of work in this weekend.

Out:
bigZ Drone - this disc is like a justice, I don't have the arm or the desire to throw a midrange that hard and still not get it to go anywhere.

on the fence:
Surges - with these as a primary distance driver, I need to have a more overstable compliment. Hurricanes might slide back in, since they can handle wind better and since working on correcting my nose angle issues should be able to get on them harder and see more of a difference in how they fly compared to surges.
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:33 AM
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Old 03-18-2019, 08:49 AM
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Getting really close to my starting lineup for the season, which is good since one of my goals is to not change that lineup for the entire year, starting April 1st.

Distance drivers
170 SP Hurricane - worn in, nice hyzerflips and turning flexes
174 PL Hurricane - newish, will turn a bit but always fades back
174 SP Hurricane - newish, flat and fairly overstable, straight to hyzer drives and light wind
172 Z Force - new, headwind driver or when I need to shape a long flex shot

Fairway drivers
172 Z Predator - flat as fk. really overstable, flex forehands
174 Z Predator - some dome, some wear. general purpose overstable driver
169 Z Predator - beat and domey, great straight to fade slightly overstable fairway
168 Z Undertaker - lighter and more workable, will hold an anhyzer
174 ESP Undertaker - line working fairway, will hyzer flip to flat or tight S turn
174 BigZMantis - woodsy finesse turnover driver, or lower power hyzer flips
174 Z AvengerSS - beat, mainly used for rollers or weird low power forehands.

Midranges
177 Jawbreaker Wasp - stable mid, breaking in to turnover cycle
175 Z Wasp - worn, hard straight to fade mid shots, or forced anhyzer shots
179 ESP Swirl Glow Wasp - new, very flat, very overstable
176 MJ ESP Glow Comet - worn, main turnover midrange, also for finesse lines in the woods.
17x X Comet - beat up, hyzer flip to turn shots and very low power straight shots


Putters
174 SP Breaker - new, forehand and hyzer approaches
174 D Banger GT - wearing in to turnover driving putter
174 MJ ESP Banger GT - straight stable driving putter
174 D Challenger - beat, used mainly for spin putts and C2 putts
174 D Challenger (x2) - matching pair of putting only putters.

Things that didn't make the bag:

The Surge - just not quite enough high speed stability for what I'd like to use them for. A little touchy on hyzer flips, and a little too high speed understable for hammering hard flat lines. Hurricane won this battle, which I'm 100% OK with since I used them a lot last season.

Zone/Ringer GT - I lean on my forehand approach game quite a bit, but the zone never quite fit my throwing style (and I found it a bit too skippy, even in Z FLX). Almost always had to flex them to land how I wanted. The ringer GT didn't quite have enough stability to fight out of a flex on some shots. The Breaker fits right in between the two - in feel and in flight.

Drone - I don't have a need for a midrange that I have to throw so hard, FH or BH, in order for it to not go anywhere. File in the same folder as the Justice. An overstable ESP wasp is enough for me, and if it isn't I just jump to a predator.

Challengers as driving putters - The flight of a challenger is really nice, but the lack of hard fade of the Banger GT is just something that can't be ignored. The high speed stability is similar but it's overall more workable since the overall flight is straighter.

Ti Undertaker - I only have a sample size of 2 that I've thrown, but I found them to be glideless and more overstable than Z/ESP variants of undertakers. I have predators that fly that way, so no need to pick up a disc that doesn't match my idea of how it should fly.
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Old 03-25-2019, 10:25 AM
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Comets have been stagnant in my bag lately. Haven't thrown any of them except some weird angle get out of trouble FH shots in the last 6 rounds. Might be transitioning back to cycling my throwing putters and midranges to cover all my lines. I've definitely found in the past that if I'm not focused on practicing and throwing comets a lot, I lose my feel for the disc. It's very unique and does require some dedication to master, and keep that mastered skill.

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Old 04-01-2019, 08:22 AM
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It's April 1, and it's time to start reaching for my stretch goal of not changing my mold lineup for the season (through October 31 at least)

Here's my committed lineup. Of course discs could change, but molds should be the same this season. I've expanded my drivers a bit, and condensed midranges, mainly due to redeveloping my FH and leaning on that shot a little more (out to 300' with a predator)

Distance drivers:
172 Z Force, newish - headwind driver, super long hyzers or flex shots.
168 ESP Force, worn - long forehand drives. I like a little lighter for this mold and FH
174 SP Hurricane, newish - pretty flat, nice slightly overstable hurricane, long hyzers when the wind is down
174 PL Hurricane, newish - flies similar and shaped similar to the SP, should wear in quicker.
171 SP Hurricane, worn - slight dome, primary distance driver

Fairway drivers:
174 Z Predator, newish - flat topped, very overstable. Used when a shot has to hyzer or flex out of a forced anhyzer.
174 Z Predator, worn - normal dome. workhorse overstable, FH and BH.
169 Z Predator, beat - normal dome. pretty flippy for a predator, can mash on this backhand and goes almost as far as a force when the wind is down.
174 FR Z Undertaker, newish - very overstable undertaker, can be interchangeable with the beat predator on a lot of shots.
174 ESP Undertaker, some wear - main straight stable fairway.
168 Z Undertaker, some wear - will hold a long anhyzer, used more in the woods for straight shots
174 BigZ Mantis, new - used for long hyzer flips in the woods and turnovers that don't fade out.
174 Avenger SS, beat - roller disc, and utility get out of trouble shots.

Midranges:
179 ESP Swirl Glow Wasp, newish - very overstable wasp. fights wind and hyzers well. Even used for longer forehand approaches.
175 Z Wasp, worn - slightly overstable wasp, long straight to fade but will flex out of a slight anhyzer
176 CT Jawbreaker Wasp, new - also slightly overstable, but holds straight longer than the Z with a dependable finish.
177 Jawbreaker Wasp, newish - stable but will flip just a touch, or hold a turn for full flight. wearing this in for cycling.

Putters:
174 SP Breaker, new - forehand and hyzer approaches
174 ESP Swirl Challenger, new - slightly overstable driving putter.
174 OG Jawbreaker Challenger, new - typical new stable challenger, used for straighter putter drives, has less fade on the finish when compared to the ESP.
174 D Challenger, beat - straight to understable. used mainly for short anhyzer or straight shots, and longer spin C2/beyond putts.
174 D Challenger (x2) - matching pair of putting only putters.

I have a weird compulsion about only having one stable putter mold that takes care of both putting and throwing duties. I think it comes from liking to have the same feel for discs, since I tend to try and minimize molds and wear cycle molds. Thus, I picked the challenger over the banger GT for throwing. They aren't that different that I can't live without the banger GT.

Overall, I really lean on fairways and midranges for the strongest part of my game. So predators, undertakers, and wasps really get the large bulk of the work off the tee for most any course that I'd play.

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Old 04-22-2019, 08:05 AM
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I only made it about 2 weeks before 'changing' the lineup. But, I didn't take any molds out, only added a few in.

Added:
176 MJ ESP Glow Comet, worn - finesse straight shots and turning midrange drives. Still too good of a disc for me to not throw.

174 MJ ESP Banger GT, newish - stable throwing driver. Had to get over having 2 throwing putter molds, and 1 putting putter mold in my bag, but I'm glad I did because I hit my first tournament ace with this disc last weekend.

174 Soft X Banger GT, new - to beat into an understable throwing putter, already a great throwing disc also. Banger GTs hold straight longer and fade less than challengers. They slot in beautifully next to the Breaker.

Taken out:
ESP Swirl Challenger, OG JB Challenger. Like I mentioned, it took a while to figure out that it's ok to have throwing putters and putting putters. I was using Challenger to throw with simply because I didn't want to add more molds - not because they were better for me.

Z Wasp - Just too many of the same disc and not enough variation. maybe when the JB wasp breaks in it will rotate back in the bag somewhere.

I think I've done enough years of mold minimalism to know when I do need to add something. This was a great example where it was a huge benefit to me to expand the lineup a bit. It's a lot of molds for me (10 molds over 22 discs) but 3 of them are basically utility - force, avengerSS, and breaker. The breaker is taking a lot of approach shots though, so I probably wouldn't go without that disc for any one round.
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Old 04-25-2019, 07:44 AM
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It's interesting - the 2 molds I put back in the bag last week, I aced with also. Tournament ace with my MJ ESP Banger, and 3 days later a flex league ace with my MJ ESP Comet. What a time to be alive!

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Old 04-26-2019, 10:26 AM
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Congrats on the aces! And sounds like some very wise additions to the bag. I too am a minimalist at heart, but as my game has expanded so has bag and mold count. It is most important to know your game.

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Old 05-02-2019, 08:00 AM
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First actual mold swap out of the season happened this week...Breaker is out in order to put the Zone back in. So, not a huge change, and going back to a previous mold I was using. The Zone just has that slight bit more torque resistant and fights wind a little better. Won't be much of an adjustment all in all.
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