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Old 03-23-2019, 07:23 AM
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Years playing/experience: DG 4 months daily (9-45+ holes/day)
Right/left-handed/ambidextrous: right-handed
Throwing Style: RHBH/RHFH
Golf Distance (avg/max*) for putter/mid/driver: aviar: 230'/260; panther: 250/280'; archer: 275/300'

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Age: 33
Sex: M
Injuries/handicaps?: none
Other sport proficiencies?: Baseball (sidearm pitcher)
Additional Information: Home course - Hinton, AB Canada - Tightly wooded/technical - Short holes mostly < 350'
What do you like/dislike about your current bag?: It's not very heavy to hike up mountains with/Sometimes feel I had a better disc for a situation at home
Specific areas of desired feedback: Thoughts on things to add/subtract/substitute as I have a lot more plastic and I'm still auditioning things
Immediate and long-term goals: Finding the molds that I can do the most with and carrying as little as possible without limiting shots


Bag:

Drivers (weight/plastic/model/(condition)/use):
170 Big Z Archer (beat) - Long turnover
170 X Heat (beat) - Tailwind/Uphill
170 Big Z Nuke (new) - Consistently straight distance on the 1 long open 500' hole with usual moderate headwind

Mids:
174 Z FLX Buzzz SS, (new) - Driving/low lines off the tee
172 X Orange Comet (beat) - US duties - turnovers and touch shots
Max wt X Blue Comet (new) - Standing drives (no x-step)
170 Champion Panther (slightly beat) - Roller/FH
174 Z Buzzz OS (new) - FH flex/wind/powered hyzers

Putting Putter:
170 Jawbreaker Zone (beat to straight)
175 G* Aviar (new)

Throwing Putters:
172 X Soft Challenger (beat to puddletop)
174 Z FLX Challenger (new)
169 Jawbreaker Banger GT (beat to hell)
174 Z FLX Zone (new)

Potential subs:

Mids: G* Mako3, Z Meteor, ESP Buzzz, ESP Buzzz SS, Z Wasp

Drivers: Big Z Sting, G* Leopard3, X Avenger, Z Avenger, Z first run Vulture, Beat ESP Predator, Beat Z Surge SS, Big Z Thrasher, Very Beat X Force, G* Tern, Champ Destroyer.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:04 AM
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Always glad to see the Panther in people's bags.

The G* Aviar P&A is the only disc in GStar plastic that I recommend, so that's good, too.

Good bag, overall. My only suggestion is to look into an overstable disc for windy days or if you need a hyzer shot to get around trees, etc. Zone (fresh), Harp, AviarX3 for putter/approaches. Banshee, Exodus, overstable Teebird (like the Jen Allen CG Teebird), Discraft's equivalent for longer throws, can power down for accuracy in the woods...

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Old 03-23-2019, 02:14 PM
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Thanks! And I have a Buzzz OS and Zones for that spot or did I misunderstand?
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Old 03-23-2019, 06:36 PM
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Thanks! And I have a Buzzz OS and Zones for that spot or did I misunderstand?
No, I missed seeing the BuzzzOS. It'll do ya.
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Old 03-24-2019, 06:25 AM
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Always glad to see the Panther in people's bags.
I know the bag is a bit mid-heavy but my home course is short, tight, and unforgiving so mids off the tee and putters for everything else is the best way to have any hope for par. One bad throw with a driver could put you far enough into the dense forest to turn your par run into an immediate +4 so despite a bit of overlap the panther is the disc I pull out for anything requiring a complicated line.

Honestly I started out with a z glo meteor in the US-mid slot which I still have and love for night rounds but I find the panther to have as much or more sneaky distance to it but is way more reliable and versatile. I can make it do almost anything where the meteor only does hyzer flip -> straight and will burn to the ground if it's overpowered or given just a bit of OAT (and NEVER fights out of even the smallest bit of HS turn). I can FH hyzer flip a panther and use OAT instead of excessive armspeed to turn it over from controllable standing throw without it burning and even have it fight back out to a slight fade if I'm dialed in just right. Great for those double dogleg "S" shaped fairways through the trees my home course has. Worst case it turns all the way over and rolls around the second dogleg so it's win-win lol.

I honestly don't know why the panther is not more popular, I lucked into finding one locally but I don't know a single other person who bags one or is even aware of it. Sad.

And I agree with you about the Zone. My Zones are my workhorses. I putt everything inside the circle with a jawbreaker zone with my FLX for sharp turns, upshots, and will usually run at the chains FH or on an anny-flex line. If I need a straight tunnel though it's a Z FLX Challenger on a hyzer flip (I also have a taco'd Jawbreaker Chally OS that lasted until the second hole before hitting a tree and becoming a laser straight zero-fade anomaly) I actually added the beat Jawbreaker Banger GT as well. Nothing does a long downhill right turn like it. It's beautiful to watch. Like a slower comet with less fade. Unreal.

Any putter or mid recommendations would be appreciated as you can see the extent of my disc exposure above. Really wanting to try some Lat 64 plastic especially.

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Old 03-24-2019, 09:27 AM
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...but I find the panther to have as much or more sneaky distance to it but is way more reliable and versatile. I can make it do almost anything where the meteor only does hyzer flip -> straight and will burn to the ground if it's overpowered or given just a bit of OAT (and NEVER fights out of even the smallest bit of HS turn). I can FH hyzer flip a panther and use OAT instead of excessive armspeed to turn it over from controllable standing throw without it burning and even have it fight back out to a slight fade if I'm dialed in just right. Great for those double dogleg "S" shaped fairways through the trees my home course has. Worst case it turns all the way over and rolls around the second dogleg so it's win-win lol.

I honestly don't know why the panther is not more popular, I lucked into finding one locally but I don't know a single other person who bags one or is even aware of it.
You do now. The Panther is a staple of my bag. In addition to using it for normal midrange duties, it's my go-to forehand approach disc and utility 'get out of jail' disc, throwing thumbers, spike hyzers, and rollers.

Panthers come in the Champion plastic starter set, so I agree that it's somewhat surprising we don't see more of them.

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Any putter or mid recommendations would be appreciated as you can see the extent of my disc exposure above. Really wanting to try some Lat 64 plastic especially.
I putt with the DD Classic Marshal, and I just started using the understable Patrol midrange disc. For Lat64, you might look at the Pure as a very straight putter, the Dagger as a bit more stable putter, and the Sinus as a good bit more overstable putter.

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Old 03-24-2019, 01:27 PM
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Honestly I started out with a z glo meteor in the US-mid slot which I still have and love for night rounds but I find the panther to have as much or more sneaky distance to it but is way more reliable and versatile. I can make it do almost anything where the meteor only does hyzer flip -> straight and will burn to the ground if it's overpowered or given just a bit of OAT

Any putter or mid recommendations would be appreciated as you can see the extent of my disc exposure above. Really wanting to try some Lat 64 plastic especially.
Hey man say hi to Kofax for me.....

Glow rounds... consider a glow Z Comet I'm real happy with mine..

I can't really give you any tips on Lat 64 putters but as you can tell from my name I'm biased.. But given that you bag a Buzzz and Zone if you tripped across an Envy it might be worth a try.

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Old 03-24-2019, 02:00 PM
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Hmmm now that I think about it..

Say Hi to Kovachs for me!
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Old 03-24-2019, 07:43 PM
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Haha I just played a round with him actually. He's got one helluva FH flex shot...

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Old 03-24-2019, 08:13 PM
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Hey man say hi to Kofax for me.....

Glow rounds... consider a glow Z Comet I'm real happy with mine..
If I could only use one disc for a round it would likely be a max weight x comet or a g* mako3 but I prefer my Z glo meteor to my elite Z so Im sure the glo comets are $$$. I lost a beat orange 172ish comet in a tree yesterday on the first hole due to some nose-up laziness.. It was also my first comet lol I remember not liking the initial feel and diameter of it but after one throw I was mesmerized and played the rest of the 9 just using it to see what it can do...

It does most things, I found out
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