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Can someone please explain the rational and purpose of the 10M circle? As a new guy, it seems arbitrary, contrived, and maybe unnecessarily complicated. What am I missing?
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:26 PM
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:39 PM
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My recollection is that the 10M circle was instituted to prevent people from "dunking" their putts.
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My recollection is that the 10M circle was instituted to prevent people from "dunking" their putts.
A 3-meter circle would have sufficed.
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because those walkthrough putts look ugly as ... #grow_the_sport
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Old 04-28-2018, 07:26 AM
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Can someone please explain the rational and purpose of the 10M circle? As a new guy, it seems arbitrary, contrived, and maybe unnecessarily complicated. What am I missing?
As an old guy, I agree completely. If my campaign to be named Rules Czar ever succeeds, I'll abolish it.

I can't help with the history, but I've always had the impression that it was a somewhat contrived attempt to create a green, to emulate what golf has. Make putting different than other throws---at least a little bit. Have a defined green, by definition if not physically.

Though a lot of people have argued that it's to make putting tougher---that if they could follow through, they'd never miss, or at least their percentage would be much higher. I don't buy that myself; though it would result in more made putts, I don't think it would be vastly more.

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The World record long jump was just under 10 meters at the time so I believe that may have factored into the thinking behind 10 meters.
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I can't help with the history, but I've always had the impression that it was a somewhat contrived attempt to create a green, to emulate what golf has. Make putting different than other throws---at least a little bit. Have a defined green, by definition if not physically.
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Agree, silly attempt to emulate ball golf. And, although 8 or 9 meters would be sufficient, 10 is just, you know, a better number.
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Though a lot of people have argued that it's to make putting tougher---that if they could follow through, they'd never miss, or at least their percentage would be much higher. I don't buy that myself; though it would result in more made putts, I don't think it would be vastly more.
Based on my experience, I strongly disagree. When I started playing in college the early 1980s, we—the club was around 30 people—weren't aware of the "must demonstrate full control of balance before advancing toward the target inside 10m" rule, with the result that "get a running start, take off behind your lie, deposit the disc in the basket as you fly by" putts were the norm if you were outside of drop-in range. Typical winning scores dropped from the -12/-14 range to -1/-3 range when we found out about the rule.

It's not something most disc golfers (at least those who play by the PDGA rules) practice because it's prohibited by the rules, but with practice, jump putting (taking off behind the lie and releasing the disc before touching down) is no more difficult, and inherently no less accurate, than shooting a jump shot or a layup in basketball, or jump setting in volleyball. If the 10m circle and the requirement of a supporting point in contact with the lie at the time the disc is release were to be eliminated, I would anticipate a statistically significant increase in the percentage of first putts made by players who incorporate this style of jump putt into their toolkit.
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Based on my experience, I strongly disagree. When I started playing in college the early 1980s, we—the club was around 30 people—weren't aware of the "must demonstrate full control of balance before advancing toward the target inside 10m" rule, with the result that "get a running start, take off behind your lie, deposit the disc in the basket as you fly by" putts were the norm if you were outside of drop-in range. .
But that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about the same stance rules inside 10 meters as outside. You still have to have to be in contact with the ground, behind the lie, at the time of release; you can't be flying through the air towards the basket, then release before landing.

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