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My putting is beyond awful right now. I’ve tried so many different things, stagger vs. straddle, different loading points, different foot angles, spin, push, etc. Every time I think I have something figured out, it won’t transfer over to the next day, or even the next practice session. And I don’t even want to talk about taking it to the course. It’s just beyond a nightmare out there the last month or two.

But this question isn’t about that, or at least I don’t think it is.

My question, in its simplest form, is what percentage of putts do you expect to make from 20 feet in your backyard? I’m not talking one time, I mean every time, over time.

The reason I’m asking about 20 feet is because it seems to me that’s roughly the distance where putts stop going from “I can yeet this into the basket any old way” to “I need to actually putt this with proper form”. That’s the distance things go from trivial to terrible for me. And it seems to me, in your backyard, under ideal conditions, you ought to be pretty near 100% at 20'. If you can’t make putts nearly automatically at that distance, I’m thinking something has to be off with what you are doing.

Is that off base? Or is it valid?
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Old 06-10-2021, 08:53 PM
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My putting is beyond awful right now. I’ve tried so many different things, stagger vs. straddle, different loading points, different foot angles, spin, push, etc. Every time I think I have something figured out, it won’t transfer over to the next day, or even the next practice session. And I don’t even want to talk about taking it to the course. It’s just beyond a nightmare out there the last month or two.

But this question isn’t about that, or at least I don’t think it is.

My question, in its simplest form, is what percentage of putts do you expect to make from 20 feet in your backyard? I’m not talking one time, I mean every time, over time.

The reason I’m asking about 20 feet is because it seems to me that’s roughly the distance where putts stop going from “I can yeet this into the basket any old way” to “I need to actually putt this with proper form”. That’s the distance things go from trivial to terrible for me. And it seems to me, in your backyard, under ideal conditions, you ought to be pretty near 100% at 20'. If you can’t make putts nearly automatically at that distance, I’m thinking something has to be off with what you are doing.

Is that off base? Or is it valid?
100% is a rough target haha. 9+/10? Ya, Id say that with the same footing and basket orientation from 20', the average enthusiast in this sport can probably do that. Just vibing at the same spot over and over is pretty easy to get super high consistency at 20' for me.

If I put a disc 20' out, take a putt, go inside for 5m, then go back out and take a putt from that spot, and repeat this 100x? My score would be substantially negatively impacted. And really, THIS to me is the real test of putting consistency.

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Old 06-10-2021, 08:53 PM
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Valid. If I miss a putt from 20 and in, I've pretty much not focused at all or something is really wrong.

I'm making 97/100. Just checked my last 4 rounds of PP360 for that number.

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I just threw a stack of 10 random mismatched putters on my back porch, 20' from the pole, pristine conditions, 10x.

I missed the first and last ones, and if that doesn't say everything about my disc golf game, I don't know what does.

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Old 06-15-2021, 10:47 AM
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So I've been keeping tabs of my C1X putting on course for scored rounds for a while. So that is a mix of shorter putts, 30 footers, puts in the rain, putts in the wind, putts with 10 feet elevation change, putts from a knee, putts from the thorns, putts straddling a dead tree, etc. I hit about 60-63%. Not great, but also in line with the bulk of the FPO field (under obviously different circumstances). And from what I can see on course, in line with or better than most on course with comparable skillsets.

When I practice as you describe, resetting every shot, I hit about 80% on bad days and over 90% on good days.
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IMO...putting is comfort and concentration. Having played for a long time, I never had the YouTubes to show different styles and techniques. I found a comfortable toss that I could put into the chains. Developed a pre shot routine that I don't waiver from, this provides me the opportunity to focus. I have practiced my throw extensively on and off. Putting just like KJUSA, will not make you a good putter like KJUSA. Putting is throwing your disc to a friend. Find a comfortable action that you can consistently deliver the disc to your friend from the circle in.

Now I am still not a great putter, but more practice would likely make me one. I am not interested in changing putters or styles as the interwebz changes. One routine, one putter, one throw.
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Old 06-15-2021, 11:39 AM
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IMO...putting is comfort and concentration. Having played for a long time, I never had the YouTubes to show different styles and techniques. I found a comfortable toss that I could put into the chains. Developed a pre shot routine that I don't waiver from, this provides me the opportunity to focus. I have practiced my throw extensively on and off. Putting just like KJUSA, will not make you a good putter like KJUSA. Putting is throwing your disc to a friend. Find a comfortable action that you can consistently deliver the disc to your friend from the circle in.

Now I am still not a great putter, but more practice would likely make me one. I am not interested in changing putters or styles as the interwebz changes. One routine, one putter, one throw.
Personally, I find putting to be an incredibly unnatural movement and it took a lot of copying forms and trial and error to find something that consistently gives me a chance of making a putt from past about 20 feet.

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Personally, I find putting to be an incredibly unnatural movement and it took a lot of copying forms and trial and error to find something that consistently gives me a chance of making a putt from past about 20 feet.
I suppose a childhood of throwing frisbees is an advantage.
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My question, in its simplest form, is what percentage of putts do you expect to make from 20 feet in your backyard?
I'm a bad putter in the wild, but in my backyard I expect to make ~85% of 20 foot putts with no pressure and no weird conditions (wind, lie, rain, etc.).

I'm in no position to give advice, but I generally practice putts from a bunch of effectively random (but reasonable) distances and lies rather than try to dial in a repetitive putt over and over. I'm improving little by little, but it's a long way to go before I feel confident about anything in C1.
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This winter/spring I was doing a lot of putting from marked distances inside my shop building. I did it inside to minimize variables and try to find a stroke I was comfortable with.

I improved some. I’ve also had times when I went backwards and had to regroup. When I feel that, I move in close and try to get my feel, form, and sequence back.

This may take multiple sessions or days.

When I feel good with the above, I have 2 baskets outdoors at 45’ apart. I throw 5-10 discs between the two. Anything outside 15’ I’ll clean up. The rest of the discs I’ll throw back to the other basket from the lie. If it’s in the basket I’ll move around in front or beside the basket.

I don’t make a lot of these 40-50’ putts, but I’m okay with that if I feel good about my stroke. I make 0-20% of my throws from that range on a given set of 5-10 discs.

When I move in to c1 it feels like a short putt and I’m pretty confident—no idea what the percentage is. My cleanups are generally 15-25 and if I miss I know it’s because I failed to follow through my routine.
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