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Old 11-22-2020, 09:29 AM
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Depends on the player. Barela for instance likes to fly by 30 feet among others. His name came to mind not to disparage him but he really smashes his putts with speed. Someone like Barsby has a tap in with his high nose down putt. Make players try and stay closer to the basket after their first putt so they don't risk 3 putting often. Which we should see 3 putting as a thing, right now it's fairly rare for the pro's obviously.
And pros 3 putting sucks to watch. It’s as credible an opinion as baskets need to be smaller.
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:40 AM
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The number of C1 putts is somewhat dependent on the number of missed C2 putts. Talking about the ratio of putts at different distances isn't going to lead anywhere useful without a much more complex mathematical model than is going to be possible to discuss in this forum.

Yes a 100% putt rate from C1X is too easy. I expect even the most successful players in a season to miss a good handful of C1X putts per season. If they were missing more than a third of their putts from C1X I suspect I would find that less enticing to watch. So at a bit of a guess I think the sweet spot for me is in the range 65% - 98%. If it's rare it's exciting to watch (unless it's too rare) and if it's a solid chance of missing it's exciting to watch unless they start to look like they can't hit a barn door. Perhaps there's another low point in the middle of the range, but I honestly don't know without seeing the overall impact on pro play. I have strong suspicions that making it harder would make layups a lot more common except possibly in the final round where we'd have more blowups but also a couple more amazing comebacks. You've had plenty of time to convince me that there are ancillary benefits to the proposed change but you're coming up blank time and again.
The top 5 finishers in the DGPT this year average about 85% from C1X. Those 5 all finished in the top 10 in c1x putting for the season.
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Old 11-22-2020, 10:46 AM
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https://www.dgpt.com/news/should-bas...able-thoughts/

The disc golf pro tour doesn't agree with you. Got this directly from their site.

Article discusses everything we have said here. Better course design, larger "greens", setting par more accurately, etc.

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Old 11-22-2020, 05:46 PM
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And pros 3 putting sucks to watch. It’s as credible an opinion as baskets need to be smaller.
Since the baskets are giant it is, but we should see it more often, not hardly ever.
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https://www.dgpt.com/news/should-bas...able-thoughts/

The disc golf pro tour doesn't agree with you. Got this directly from their site.

Article discusses everything we have said here. Better course design, larger "greens", setting par more accurately, etc.
The courses the DGPT play are in my opinion too easy, but also the basket size is too easy as well. They say basically redesign all the courses they play and extend the circle to 30 meters? Yeah sure. You can reclassify a putt but it won't change what the problem is, Easy C1 putting. You can redesign courses but that can be very costly as well if not impossible if the land is not available.

I see lots of excuses rather then addressing the real issue.
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Old 11-23-2020, 06:47 PM
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I'm just quoting this to bring it to the last page again in case anyone missed it.

It's that good. Mods should have just locked this thread after this post.

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I'm not wading through all this hogwash, but I'm curious if oldman has posted his putting instructional video. Since his premise for his longwinded circular argument is that putting is way too easy, I just figured he has to be a world class putter. My apologies if this has already been discussed.

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Old 11-23-2020, 08:10 PM
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roggenb3 nice bump, you want to stick to the topic?
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roggenb3 nice bump, you want to stick to the topic?
Pleading for attention?
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Old 11-23-2020, 10:31 PM
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I'm just quoting this to bring it to the last page again in case anyone missed it.

It's that good. Mods should have just locked this thread after this post.
If the DGCR has a Hall of Fame, his post would have to be in it.

And I'd say that if it were attacking me, just in appreciation for the brilliance.

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