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Old 02-07-2020, 09:58 PM
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Hi DGCR,

I've been doing a lot of field practice several times a week now for a few hours and would like to know how to get into the infamous closed stance that Paul is in on the thumbnail images.

I feel like I've tried and tried a hundred times to get my legs/hips to move that way, but I always end up sort of like the other image. (Sorry for the blur)

It almost seems like they're forcing their knee toward the ground before/during the peak of the reach-back to instigate faster hip movement.

Any drills you could recommend for this?

Thank you.
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Old 02-08-2020, 01:25 AM
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Instead of thinking of getting into a static position (which everybody does), think of the dynamic motion that was happening when the static position was captured. For the Kinetic Sequence (https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...hlight=kinetic) to work requires more of a feeling and rhythm like a dance than body positions.

The Door Frame Drill P1-P3, Crush the Can, and One Leg Drill videos are the basics and foundation that lead to good loading and unloading of the hips https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=119328.

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The hips "load and unload or rotate" properly when you shift your weight/center/hips forward butt first whilst going into the heel plant and bracing upright in dynamic balance on the front leg. IMO One Leg Drill is the best way to learn how to actually use and not use the hips.

The trail knee "drops" because you are moving/falling targetward whilst maintaining leverage against the ground, your trail knee also "drops" while pitching and bowling and walking normally straight ahead, it's not an intentional move, but a byproduct of making a targetward move/shift. Moving laterally, the rear foot rolls inward whilst plantar flexing in knee flexion and the shin angulates downward to maintain leverage whilst dropping the knee and center of gravity forward into the plant from the ground up, so the lower body is shifting/leading the upper body forward from underneath.

You can only shift underneath when you have a levitation and falling like how a skier turns back and forth in slalom. If you are crouched in the x-step you will have a very hard making this move. You should be tall/hop in x-step so you can fall into the plant and shift the lower body forward underneath to catch yourself in balance.

Kinetic Sequence/Drills: https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=133319

The Hips: https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=133543
PP Riding the Bull / Slalom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lvXcIcNGgs&t=169s
Me Riding the Bull / Slalom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxnhM5amro0&t=1m14s






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Old 02-09-2020, 01:26 PM
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Many things will work out on their own once you figure out the dingle arm. You cant really whip your arm without it. And if you cant swing/whip your arm your body does not know what to do and you end up focusing on irrelevant things like the position of the hips. Its impossible to make it artificially and independently. Your body needs to respond to momentum and weight and thats rhe only way to figure out the kinetic chain. Everyone can throw a heavy rock or bowling ball pretty accurately without thinking what the hips do. t
Thats why SW22 posts the elephant walks, slash throughs and hammer videos. Its easier to let go of the arm with a heavy object and operate it with your core and back muscles. Dingle arm. Ball on a string. Swinging the arm without using the arm.

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Don’t get me wrong, my hips do a lot of my throwing. I went from 350 to about 390-415 once I learned to use my hips better. The issue is that when I’m recording I can clearly see that my hips still do not have the sort of connection that I’m seeing in higher levels of play which is why I was wondering if there was something I was missing.
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https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=134329

In step 2 of the image on the main post, see how the hips are angled down towards the target? Doing this puts your plant foot in the right spot at the right angle automatically.
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In step 2 of the image on the main post, see how the hips are angled down towards the target? Doing this puts your plant foot in the right spot at the right angle automatically.
I see. I'll do a little camera work and see if I can get this in motion.

Maybe I'll share it if you all would be willing to help correct any inconsistencies.

I'm getting better distance every day that I do this.

Thanks for your help.
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What Sidewinder and RFrance said is wholly right, but it can be a bit confusing if you don't already understand what's going on.

That thread is the way I wish I would have heard it before I "got" it.
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