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Old 03-10-2020, 02:44 PM
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Undertaker is a bettet bet than the Mantis. I actually have dropped Undertakers since I found no real reason to bag both UTs and Stalkers, and the Stalkers were more consistent for me.
Well the stalker is taking a lot of undertaker type throws without 2nd thought - the Mantis would fit in where I need to work more lines (both stalker and undertaker excel at straight and line holding)
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Old 03-10-2020, 03:52 PM
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Just got a brand new ESP Undertaker....very stable out of the box, but im excited to see what it flies like after a few months.

Feels like a Rival in the hand at first. Will it have similar flight as it beats in?
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Old 03-10-2020, 07:05 PM
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Got my soft x zone today. So far it's exactly what I wanted. A overstable approach disc that sticks where it lands. It will be a great compliment to my soft roach.
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Old 03-11-2020, 01:44 PM
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The 2020 flightguide is up on Discrafts site

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Old 03-11-2020, 02:04 PM
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The 2020 flightguide is up on Discrafts site
The gap left of the Stalker. Something could go there.

They are my favorite brand but I'd have a hard time going all DC. Staying mixed.
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Old 03-11-2020, 02:25 PM
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The gap left of the Stalker. Something could go there.

They are my favorite brand but I'd have a hard time going all DC. Staying mixed.
Not a big surprise if one of Paige next disc will be a "Stalker OS"

And we could see a Speed 5 disc in the 1.0-1.2 stability range

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Old 03-11-2020, 03:28 PM
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Not a big surprise if one of Paige next disc will be a "Stalker OS"

And we could see a Speed 5 disc in the 1.0-1.2 stability range
Stalker OS sounds good to me, especially if it removes the bead, since that would make it nicer to FH.

1.0-1.2 speed 5 disc sounds like an X Wasp!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-11-2020, 03:47 PM
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Overall, I found the Zeus to just be more reliable for my arm, and a touch longer on normal golf lines.

All of that having been said. I am keeping all of my Trespasses. I'm 31 now, and while I legitimately feel like I am in the best shape of my life, I recognize that my arm speed will begin to decrease, and when that happens I'm going straight back to the Trespass.
Thank you for the detailed feedback, I do appreciate it. Two winter ago I broke out a few Lucid Trespass I had laying around from player packs and decided to give them a go. Unless I am in a decent headwind I feel very comfortable with them, not too much flip as I have a slower arm speed than you.

I break them out when I want a touch more distance than a Crank. And I find the Trespass much more controllable than a Sheriff.

I had never really consider using a Zeus until I saw recently Hannah was using one and then you mentioned switching over from a Trespass. I had always felt it more stability than I need. But I will be sure to check them out once summer gets here.
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Old 03-11-2020, 04:43 PM
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Just got a brand new ESP Undertaker....Feels like a Rival in the hand at first....
To what part of your hand? The pad of the thumb?

I've seasoned ESPs that flip like Patriots, if we're talking Legacy.
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Old 03-11-2020, 05:31 PM
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So my 2 Undertakers arrived today. Like the hand feel, have a quick question for ya'll:

Are undertakers pretty domey, generally speaking? Both of these are pretty domey. Not poppy, just a smooth dome. Definitely not flat. Make a nice deep heartbeat noise.
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