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Old 08-18-2019, 11:40 AM
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How do you identify a + (Plus) mold? Does that just mean pop top/domey?
No sir.

The inside rim under the disc is angled slightly outward like most Euro plastic if you've ever held any of those. The normal inside rim is more vertical/perpendicular to the flight plate. Feel and visual comparison is how you tell.
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Old 08-18-2019, 12:32 PM
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It's been a while since I've posted here, but I thought I'd come and ask advice from the most qualified people I know.... You guys/gals!!

I'll get straight to it. Like a dummy I've been using older Champion Banshees (opaque) as my main thrower for the last 5+ years. I started out with 4 of them, but it seems my luck has run out and I've lost 2 this year alone and now I'm down to my last Banshee. I'm looking for another Innova disc to hopefully replace them with something easier to find in stores.

In my bag now I have Firebirds, Eagles, Teebirds and Leopards so I'm good on those. Would a Metal Flake Teebird be OS enough to replace the Banshee? I just purchases a lighter weight Champ Firebird, but it's gonna take a bit of time to break it into a Banshee flight and I'm looking for something more similar right out of the 'box'. IMO(Firebird is too OS, Eagle too much turn, Teebird too straight for flex shots).

Speed 9 is as high as I would like to go. Please keep suggestions in the Fairway speeds

Thanks!
You might can contact online places and see if they have any of those older Champ Banshees left in stock. I have some Champ Banshees, and a couple of them are like that.

My first thought when I read your post was that the Lat64 XXX might be a good replacement. But I think they're also OOP, so I don't know what might be in stock anywhere. My second thought is to try to find a high PLH Champ Eagle or Champ Teebird that might be an acceptable substitute for you.
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Old 08-18-2019, 01:12 PM
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The RDG Tyrant is a great banshee replacement.

Issue is that we need to run more..

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Old 08-18-2019, 02:11 PM
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The RDG Tyrant is a great banshee replacement.

Issue is that we need to run more..
Uhh...YEAH! You do.

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Old 08-18-2019, 02:23 PM
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The Spark is the closest that I've thrown. Preferably the older, flatter ones before Feldberg tweaked it.

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Old 08-18-2019, 04:37 PM
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I throw Sparks. I find that they are a close substitute, but less OS. I actually did a three-way test comparing the Banshee (+), the EXP-X, and the Spark. I settled on the Spark for that slot. I think a Firebird is too fast for what you seek; however, it can get you there, too.


Now, Hampstead has a point about the pre-modified Spark. There are still some of those available via Marshall Street, actually. But, that gets you back to a problem of replacing lost discs.

There are also PLENTY of EXP-Xs and EXP-Ls online. I think EXP-Xs are onto run 1.2 now...

A MF TeeBird is not even CLOSE to a Banshee, by the way. The MF TeeBird (or TB3) is a slightly more OS TeeBird. Even a Brinster TeeBird is well short. A Banshee is an entire notch more in terms of hard, dumping fade.

The XXX is NOT OOP. The Trident is also available again. So, you have three Lat64 options.


The plus rim Banshees are not bad. The EXP-X is a fun disc. A Neutron Fireball isn't a bad idea. Good excuse to try new stuff!

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Old 08-18-2019, 04:44 PM
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DGA Banzai it looks to be a flatter version of the Innova Banshee, to what the flatter run of Banshee was in the 2000's just a speed faster then the Banshee.

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Old 08-18-2019, 04:45 PM
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Why does Innova do this? Nobody asked for Plus Rim Banshees...at least mark them Banshee+ or something instead of switching them. Same thing with most newer Vikings.

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Old 08-18-2019, 05:28 PM
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Uhh...YEAH! You do.

In weights under 170 (160-165 would be ideal, yes I am getting old)
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Old 08-18-2019, 05:33 PM
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DGA Banzai it looks to be a flatter version of the Innova Banshee, to what the flatter run of Banshee was in the 2000's just a speed faster than the Banshee.

https://discgolf.com/disc-golf-discs...airway-driver/
I threw Pipelines for a while and was VERY excited for the Banzai. It is not Banshee OS... It is a slightly more OS Pipeline (with an odd angle on the wing). I think that was DGA's intention (and how they market the mold - the "Banzai Pipeline"). It is also another good illustration of the variable nature of flight numbers across different manufacturers.

I would compare the First Flights/John Dorn FFs to stable Thunderbirds.

As with anything I write here (or anywhere), this is just MY personal view.
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