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Well, that way MPO wouldn't become a ratings-protected division. So it's a step in the right direction.

How about, "You can play MPO if you beat a 1027 rated player at a B-tier or above in the past 2 years."

Because that way, Lloyd Weema could still qualify. He beat JohnE McCray at the Southwest Florida Open this year.

Lloyd also has a win in the MP40 division, although that was a C-tier.
Are you Lloyd? The win was when he was the only one in his division (50 throws behind the intermediate winner) and McCray did not finish, but was 50 shots ahead after 2 rounds.
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:59 PM
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the best way to learn to play better is to play against better players
Well... in that case, he can show up to most Ctiers around the country and play Rec for awhile.

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Old 10-15-2019, 06:00 PM
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The guy is on some unexplained ego trip. Should have been stopped long ago IMO. Having spectators witness his play in conjunction with the top pros, is a black mark on the sport and shows the governing body doesn't take competition seriously as long it gets it's money.
Why so serious? In the words of "Steady" Ed "The person who has the most fun wins."

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Old 10-15-2019, 06:07 PM
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How many thousands of players try to get into the US Open each year? How many thousands more would try if there weren't qualification standards?

Now contrast that to how many players are trying to get into, say, the Ledgestone or GBO?

There's a reason that ball golf has minimum qualifications for their tours and their majors...there's far more demand (players) than there is supply (tournaments and places within them). That dynamic doesn't exist yet in disc golf.
Ball golf does it regardless if the event is full or not. They do it to protect the other players from players who simply do not compete on anywhere near the same level. Yes..it does effect play for the rest of the card when someone consistently is taking two more approach shots per hole than the rest. The USGA will not sell out the players for money. Glad the PDGA has decided not to do the same.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:31 PM
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I think Throwbot is being a bit disingenuous about his facts.
I prefer the term "cherry picking."

Also, those aren't my facts. They're the PDGA's facts, publicly available for all to view.

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Are you Lloyd?
I wish! I don't really have the time to play many tournaments anymore, let alone travel to Worlds and other high profile events.

That dude's a legend. I can't believe so many folks around here want to crap in his cheerios. Guess it's tough to know how jealousy will make people act.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:40 PM
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Well... in that case, he can show up to most Ctiers around the country and play Rec for awhile.
No, he can't. At least not if the rec division is sanctioned. He can't be reclassified down to Am status because he's accepted cash within the past year.

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Old 10-15-2019, 06:41 PM
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Ball golf does it regardless if the event is full or not. They do it to protect the other players from players who simply do not compete on anywhere near the same level. Yes..it does effect play for the rest of the card when someone consistently is taking two more approach shots per hole than the rest. The USGA will not sell out the players for money. Glad the PDGA has decided not to do the same.
Okay, if you want to go on believing that the USGA instituted their qualifications out of some sort of grandiose desire to protect the level of play, and it had nothing to do with simple supply and demand logistics that came to a head 75 years ago, go right ahead.

Unless there was some sort of groundswell from the players calling for this rule, I don't believe for a second that this rule is motivated by a desire to protect players from being "sold out" for money. There's no money in the game to begin with. Every player wants more money in the game. If the consequence of having a slightly better chance to cash and slightly more money to win, they're perfectly willing to pay it.

The history of disc golf is littered with pros cajoling everyone and their mothers to play up to pad their purse. The game hasn't reached a tipping point yet where it doesn't still want those donators, even at the elite level.

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Old 10-15-2019, 06:43 PM
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No, he can't. At least not if the rec division is sanctioned. He can't be reclassified down to Am status because he's accepted cash within the past year.
Fine then he can play advanced and still get beat by 60 strokes...
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No, he can't. At least not if the rec division is sanctioned. He can't be reclassified down to Am status because he's accepted cash within the past year.
Yes, he can. If you're sub-900 rated, you can play Rec whether you're classified as Am or Pro. That goes for any sanctioned tournament.


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No, he can't. At least not if the rec division is sanctioned. He can't be reclassified down to Am status because he's accepted cash within the past year.
That's only a restriction for players that have accepted cash and have a player rating above 970. You can play AM events if you've accepted cash and have a player rating under 970 as long as they're not majors.

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