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Quite a turn of events late in the round. Cat seemed to check out mentally on hole 12 with that silly and rushed 3-putt, yet now she's on the 18th green with a putt to win it all. Imagine if she could maintain her cool and her focus for 18 straight holes. This wouldn't have been a contest.

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Old 10-20-2019, 02:57 PM
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Feel like PP checked out mentally efter worlds
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:03 PM
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Feel like PP checked out mentally efter worlds
Eh she won MVP by 7 strokes.
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:07 PM
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Eh she won MVP by 7 strokes.
Yes but after that she has been playing really quite bad. . just don΄t hit her lines at all


But this was one ODD round . .

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Old 10-20-2019, 03:14 PM
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Eh she won MVP by 7 strokes.
And saying she "checked out" implies that she's so much better than everyone else that she can be unengaged (essentially not trying) and still finish top 2-3 at big events (2nd at Canadian Nationals, US Women's, HOFC). It also removes the agency from the very good players that have beaten her of late, like Tattar, Hokom, and Allen.

She's the best female player in the world, but she's not so head and shoulders above the rest that winning and losing is entirely a matter of whether she's trying or not.

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Old 10-20-2019, 03:38 PM
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But when you win 9 in a row. . . And then stops winning it feels like something is of
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:21 PM
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But when you win 9 in a row. . . And then stops winning it feels like something is of
Last year, not counting USDGC, she won 17 of 26 tournaments. That includes a few B and C-tier wins, and she hasn't played any events below A-tier this year. If we remove those B and C-tier wins, she was 11 for 20 (55%) last year. This year, she's 12 for 22 (54.5%). Seems pretty consistent to me.

Just because wins come in bunches doesn't mean they're going to keep coming forever.

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What stats watchers sometimes miss is tracking the length, terrain and penalties on the courses being played. It's apparent that certain players are more likely to do slightly better or worse depending on the course. Note that Elaine King for example still does well on more wooded courses with shorter hole lengths despite her veteran status.

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Old 10-20-2019, 04:41 PM
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What stats watchers sometimes miss is tracking the length, terrain and penalties on the courses being played. It's apparent that certain players are more likely to do slightly better or worse depending on the course. Note that Elaine King for example still does well on more wooded courses with shorter hole lengths despite her veteran status.
Would you expect that the effect that those course factors have is inversely proportional to one's rating? If one is rated 1050, I wouldn't expect there to be much variance in that player's success rate based on course length or wooded-ness or availability of penalty opportunities (OBs, hazards, mandos, etc). But if the player is 950 or 970, I would think they'd be more impacted by a course's overall length or terrain. Which would indicate the FPO division being a bit more variable based on the course style...like Elaine being more competitive in a shorter, wooded environment versus a longer, more open course.
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Would you expect that the effect that those course factors have is inversely proportional to one's rating? If one is rated 1050, I wouldn't expect there to be much variance in that player's success rate based on course length or wooded-ness or availability of penalty opportunities (OBs, hazards, mandos, etc). But if the player is 950 or 970, I would think they'd be more impacted by a course's overall length or terrain. Which would indicate the FPO division being a bit more variable based on the course style...like Elaine being more competitive in a shorter, wooded environment versus a longer, more open course.
Take a look and you'll see some differences in a player's round ratings based on terrain even at the highest levels. Certain players have not played certain courses for whatever reason or played elsewhere based on how course(s) set up for their game or their history on the course. It's perfectly reasonable for touring pros to do that as long as their sponsors are cool with it.
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