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Old 05-27-2012, 01:02 AM
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That would be awesome if they would start producing P-FD's! Should beat up much faster turning into an amazing turnover driver that never fades back.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:19 AM
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I tried a river, the plus mold type grip was horrible, complete garbage.
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:23 AM
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I tried a river, the plus mold type grip was horrible, complete garbage.
I guess the huge following the River has is just full of complete idiots too
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:51 AM
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I guess the huge following the River has is just full of complete idiots too
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:13 AM
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I carry a 172g Opto River for hyzer flip straight lines and long turnovers. I have 176g Opto that I can really put the corn cobs to and not worry about burnin. I also have a Jackal at 173g that feels about the same as my heavier River. The difference is a harder fade with enough energy to get a skip. It also works a flex line a little easier than the River, requires less height.
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Old 05-27-2012, 07:53 PM
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I think the River smokes the Jackal. I can put a lot more power into the River. I found the Jackal to be worthless. Even hyzer flipping, it would just turn and burn. Thrown light, it would do its thing. Maybe I just had a bad Jackal but I didn't mesh with it well. It seems to tailor more to the finesse player. Maybe I'm wrong. I can't throw a Leopard either. Three discs that everyone seems to love that I can't throw are the Leopard, Jackal, and Fuse. The River just goes where I want it to. From low and straight to huge anhyzers, it does it all.
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I would like to try the Jackal except for two things: Only available in "S" plastic in the US, and I suspect it's a TL in disguise. As for the River, not the best as a "control driver", IMO. They don't like to travel a straight line and are dicey in any kind of wind. I use my Opto River for easy distance, and also if I'm getting fatigued late in a round, or especially during multiple rounds. I'll disc down altogether then, with the River getting the nod over the Z XL and champ Leopard for most drives off the teepad.
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Old 05-27-2012, 08:58 PM
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I picked up a 175 S-FD today after the Texas Amateur Championships. Talk about control! I'm not sure I've ever thrown such an easily controlled disc. It's pretty slow, and doesn't require much speed, but it has a ton of glide and goes exactly where you put it.
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I would like to try the Jackal except for two things: Only available in "S" plastic in the US, and I suspect it's a TL in disguise. As for the River, not the best as a "control driver", IMO. They don't like to travel a straight line and are dicey in any kind of wind. I use my Opto River for easy distance, and also if I'm getting fatigued late in a round, or especially during multiple rounds. I'll disc down altogether then, with the River getting the nod over the Z XL and champ Leopard for most drives off the teepad.
I agree with the TL comparison on the FD...

As far as the River not being a control driver, I am finding the opposite with my GL. If I get a good rip on it, it goes nice and straight and, now that it is a little beat, just drops to the ground with little fade. My TM River is great for hyzer flips. And, they both power down very well. When it is windy, I break out the Teebird, but I am having a blast with the River otherwise.
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