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Old 10-28-2017, 04:21 AM
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Took one from the side today, terrible weather btw was all wet after leaving home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCeWDwiy9yQ

I can feel that lower spine leading the upper spine when I go throught the motion of hitting a ball. Gonna be hard to transfer that to disc throw, probably wise to start from standstill?

It looks like I'm really close to that horse stance at my plant again, have to look into that I guess, crush the can?

So number 1:

- Get my lower spine to lead upper spine/head

Probably best to put my focus on that, because I tend to get really confused when thinking of multiple parts at once.

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Old 10-28-2017, 09:17 PM
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Agree, also see Door Frame Drills, your butt/weight should be pulling the door frame through your shoulder/arm.
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Have to rewatch those, I remember you talking about having the weight on the inside of rear leg when pulling from the door frame. Is it the rear leg that should generate the weight transfer but butt should lead?

Did some one-step "standstill" throws today while putting, I also took one video of the bandy strike I've been talking about, without the club tho. This is what I've been trying to feel in my disc throw lately, does it make any sense or is it wise to base my disc throw on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py5TCpNRe18

After that tried to feel it in my throw.

From front:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhQTs1KSn04

From behind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPPYybxC3Ww

Doesn't look like I get that lower spine leading?

Also that shoulder turn seems really small in my reachback as you mentioned earlier, is that big part distance wise?

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Old 10-29-2017, 01:04 PM
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Also, maybe bit irrelevant at this point, but should I change my rear hand position in the swing somewhere? Now it is bit loose and probably slowing me down?
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Your rear leg moves your center of mass/butt forward, but it can not add downward weight force shift into the front leg. Gravity is what generates weight(weight=mass*Gravity), falling in balance/tune to it to add more G force or weight force like pumping your legs on a swing.

I agree your lower spine is not leading and your rear arm is hanging back away from your center during the throw and slowing your rotational speed and force into the throw.

The other major issue is that your elbow is never leading forward of the shoulder. You are hugging yourself and dropping the elbow low into the body and your upper arm angle is less than 90 so the lower arm fulcrum is never set forward of the shoulder. So both of your elbows are basically reversed from where they should be. Rear elbow should be in tight. Front elbow should be up and out leading so you have a wide upper arm angle all throughout the throw. This will feel weird to you at first, like you can't generate much power... unless you turn your body/shoulders much further back and forth with the arm.

Hold your front foot back to the wall as long as you can while your butt leads your fall/stride.
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Great drill, should I also think about "keeping" my lead leg in the wall when I try to incorporate that into throws, or is it just to get the feeling of gravity aid in the drill? This is gonna take tons of work to incorporate into swing.

I seem to forget that arm part of the swing totally when I focus on weight shift and bracing, thanks for reminding, hopefully learn to see those major issues during this journey because I believe it's easy to go back into bad habits if I ever learn the right way.

Did couple throws to net today focusing solely on pulling arm and getting the elbow past shoulder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JepcuiqHEd0

Looks better in my eyes, but is it close to right?

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Looks better in my eyes, but is it close to right?
(Mean the arm angles, every other part of the form got destroyed when I focused on that)
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Yeah, your arm looks a lot better.

Now you need to make "the move" to the front leg without your rear foot spinning out in the process:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC-e1NXR6mk&t=140s

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Had quite messy throwing session today, was thinking about way too many pieces at once and it really messes up my head, was going over my bracing point all the time... Last couple throws I decided to only focus on keeping arm wide and leading with the elbow, also trying to tuck that rear hand in pocket after the pull starts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqEeuz-sVtk

Think those are the 2 things I will focus till I can get them to muscle memory and wont have to think about when trying to learn the next thing. Just want to ask is there some adjustment you would do to those 2 parts?

Also I have always wanted to do a little hop into the xstep, somehow those steps feel little bit smoother that way, is it wise to add there?
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Took one hershyzer to tape, glad I did since it looks like I don't have it quite right:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PovnAGrpyBA

To me it seems I should push my hips further to the target and keep my hips closed longer?

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