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Old 07-08-2019, 01:07 PM
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Or is it most likely because some of the Roc purists who look down their noses at the Roc3 also happen to be the kind of people who look down their noses in general?
I mean I prefer the Roc to the Roc3 so I throw them. I don't care what you throw so I'm not going to "look down my nose" at you for preferring the Roc3. Roc3's are perfectly fine discs that work well for a lot of people that are not me.
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Old 07-08-2019, 01:11 PM
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Of course the exception for me (because there has to be an exception) is the Mako3, which just seems more stable and predictable than a Mako to me. Mako3's seem to like my weaksauce throws just fine. So nothing is set in stone, but as a general rule if I have a TL and a TL3 or a TeeBird and a TeeBird3, the 3 version isn't going to work as well for me.
The Mako3 worked well as a "3" series disc, and Paul McBeth certainly liked the Roc3. I dunno what Innova did with the TL3 vs. the TL, but the tops weren't truly "3" flat.
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Old 07-08-2019, 05:21 PM
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You're an idiot. And a victim. And have no useful info to share about Rocs.

Rocs have different tooling (each of the three classic molds have their own tooling) from a Roc3. So they are obviously not using the same Roc bottom piece(s). That said, the bottom and lower wing on a Roc3 don't feel much different than the Rancho bottom. You're right about the "3" top though -- Roc3s should come out of the mold flatter, while flat-top Rancho Rocs are flattened after they come out of the Rancho mold.
But isn't the tolling in the underside of the flight plate/top piece? I don't think Innova has any tooling in the rims. I don't know if it is true, but isn't it possible that SD is 100% correct and the Roc3 uses all of the mold pieces of the Rancho except for the flight plate which is where the tooling is located?

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Old 07-08-2019, 05:27 PM
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But isn't the tolling in the underside of the flight plate/top piece? I don't think Innova has any tooling in the rims. I don't know if it is true, but isn't it possible that SD is 100% correct and the Roc3 uses all of the mold pieces of the Rancho except for the flight plate which is where the tooling is located?
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:28 PM
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But isn't the tolling in the underside of the flight plate/top piece? I don't think Innova has any tooling in the rims. I don't know if it is true, but isn't it possible that SD is 100% correct and the Roc3 uses all of the mold pieces of the Rancho except for the flight plate which is where the tooling is located?
He never mentioned the rim in talking about the Roc's tooling. Not sure where you got that. And way to go SD. You were possibly half right about the less obvious mold pieces.
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Old 07-08-2019, 06:51 PM
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Why can’t people just research their questions? There’s no need to ask again, the information is already out there.

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Old 07-08-2019, 06:53 PM
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...but isn't it possible that SD is 100% correct and the Roc3 uses all of the mold pieces of the Rancho except for the flight plate which is where the tooling is located?
No. It is not possible that SD is 100% correct. Because he said they use the same bottom. But the tooling differences establish that they do not. Period.

Whether or not they use the same wing piece wasn't raised. But I wouldn't be totally surprised is they did (although they don't quite look the same side-by-side).

SD has shown time and time again a willingness to comment in threads on topics about which he has no useful information.

You don't see me mucking up the Panther thread with useless and incorrect info, do you? No. You don't Because I have no useful information to share in there. If I was in there, it would be to learn. Not to confuse.

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Old 07-08-2019, 07:14 PM
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But isn't the tolling in the underside of the flight plate/top piece?
I feel like maybe you are confused about where the tooling is. It's on the underside of the flight plate. Or perhaps you are confused about the 3 (some people think there are sometimes 4 -- the nose spacer conspiracy) pieces of a mold, and on which piece the tooling resides (it's on the piece that molds the bottom of the flight plate, not the "3" top).

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Old 07-08-2019, 08:07 PM
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Another thread mucked up.

SD86 does not let facts get in the way of his seemingly compulsive need to increase his post count.

-DX Roadrunner

-Destroyers fly the same at 260' as 400'+

-Conspiracy City

Just to name a few.

Asking nicely to refrain from posting inaccurate info doesn't work. So people, shall we say, ask less than nicely. The same thing happens again and again: someone calls out the inaccuracies, things get heated, then some combination of "hater," "stalker," "jackbooted lockstep," or the like gets thrown about. Then things cool down/mods intervene...until it happens again in the same predictable fashion.

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Old 07-08-2019, 08:27 PM
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1. DX Roadrunner

2. Destroyers fly the same at 260' as 400'+

3. "jackbooted lockstep"
1. Nope. Not a thing.

2. Nope. They do not.

3. Jockstrap.
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