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Old 07-21-2019, 04:29 PM
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TIME IS A FLAT CIRCLE

I don't think I threw a single good shot with a Pipeline in my tournament this weekend. C'est la vie.

Undertakers again back in the bag.
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Old 07-23-2019, 09:59 PM
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Did I mention that time is a flat circle? That everything we've ever done or will do, we'll repeat over and over?

Challengers in Steadys out. Warm weather leads to significant release consistency issues with a big bead. I was absolutely jamming putts on my new mach shift in "pro mode" from 20-25' using challengers. Missed 4/6 consistently with the steady.

So, I'm back to the same bag lineup I started the season with. This is a new development. Usually I can't help but mess with things. Though the stock run Zeus is looking pretty good right now, it hasn't shown me that it's better than the hurricane.....yet

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Old 08-08-2019, 08:09 AM
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Just a quick update. Lineup is basically the same but a few new discs in the bag.

Distance drivers
174 PL FLX Hurricane, newish - pretty overstable, long hyzers/headwind drives
170 PL FLX Hurricane, new - bomber right out of the box. slots in as a backup disc right now
174 SP Hurricane, slight wear - very flat, mainly used for long forehand shots
171 SP Hurricane, worn - beat to slightly understable, will flip up or nice shallow S-turn

Fairway drivers
174 Z Predator (pearly plastic, old X stamp), new - the beef. slight dome but is overstable AND has glide
171 Z Predator, new - very flat, mainly forehands and FH rollers
174 Z Predator, beat - well beat in but still very straight even when powered up.
174 FR Undertaker, new - fresh in the cycle, very overstable Undertaker
174 FR Undertaker, worn - beat in enough where it flies like a new ESP.
168 Z Undertaker, worn - slightly understable, good for flip ups and long turning shots
172 Z Mantis, worn - very understable, for turning shots that won't fade out
174 ESP Avenger SS, newish - putting this one back in to try for rollers again.

Midranges
178 Swirl Glow ESP Wasp, newish - still a nice overstable midrange
176 JB Wasp, worn - finally wearing in to straight. powered up has a slight right drift before a mild fade.
176 MJ ESP Glow Comet, worn - money straight disc in the woods. finesse turning shots too
17x X Comet, beat - tricky 3 direction hyzer flips, very low power straight shots.

Putters
174 JB Zone, new - when I need a lot of fade or range control on a putter drive
172 Z Zone, newish - almost exclusively used for FH approaches and short FH drives
174 D-Line Steady, worn - approaches and straight to slight turnover approaches
174 Glow MF4 Steady, new - nice stable driving putter
173 D Challenger (x3) - all putting duties

Liking the lineup a lot right now. Might cycle in a new comet. Really prefer throwing the Steady over the Challenger (I like throwing mids/putters with beads), and wearing in a D Line Steady gives me all the options I need. Undertakers, Wasps, and Hurricanes are starting to (finally) wear into nice cycling discs. They are all great compliments to the rest of the bag.

Haven't felt this good about a lineup ever, I think. Made a couple of audibles so far but basically back to the same lineup I had at the start of the season (only exchanging banger gts for steadys)
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Old 08-18-2019, 08:04 AM
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Trimming/refining the lineup.

Out: Z Mantis, In: D Avenger SS

With a somewhat stable ESP Avenger SS, and adding in D, should have turning shots/rollers covered when slotted next to the beat Z Undertaker.

Out: Steady, In: more Challengers

Giving challengers a full go for putting/throwing duties. After all of these years it's still weird to me to putt and throw with different discs.

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Old 08-22-2019, 04:26 PM
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Every once in a while I figure out WHY I am attracted to certain types of discs, even if I can't get them to initially work well for me.

Newest lesson is why I figured out the Steady (or less glidey putters) are better putters for me. I've been handicapping the natural athletic motion of my putt using glidey putters. I want something that I can "fling" harder at the basket. When I back off, I can't use my hips or legs as much, and rely on my arm to do the putting. This creates a lot of uncertainty in the motion, and creates a lot more guessing as to the arc I need to get the putt there. With a lower glide putter (ie steady vs challenger) I can get more legs into my putt, and have my arm along for the ride - aim at a spot high on the chains and know I won't sail it past.

*insert "The more you know" here*

Now I need to work on drilling the bad habits I was developing out of my putt and get back to a more free and flowing putt motion.
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Now I need to work on drilling the bad habits I was developing out of my putt and get back to a more free and flowing putt motion.
The perfect putting motion is a rare thing. You could spend your whole life searching for it, and it would not be a wasted life.

Pretty sure that's an ancient Chinese proverb.

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Old 08-22-2019, 06:08 PM
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The perfect putting motion is a rare thing. You could spend your whole life searching for it, and it would not be a wasted life.

Pretty sure that's an ancient Chinese proverb.
I think I've read that somewhere before

Not that I'll throw perfectly I just want to get away from the mechanical motion I was using and try to feel more "free" when I putt.
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:05 AM
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Apparently what works on the practice greens doesn't necessarily apply to real world situations...who would have guessed?

Again, I feel like I learn tidbits every time I practice putt (and play rounds for that matter). I think it's better to focus on my current putt than try and overhaul technique and 'putt harder' to compensate for a lack of glide in a putter. Challenger fits, Steady is like trying to put a square peg in a round hole - I could make it work but why go through the headache??
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Old 08-26-2019, 08:11 AM
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Current lineup is a bit condensed since I have to send my Octothorpe back for warranty repairs.

Distance drivers
174 PL FLX Hurricane, newish - pretty overstable, long hyzers/headwind drives
174 SP Hurricane, slight wear - very flat, mainly used for long forehand shots
171 SP Hurricane, worn - beat to slightly understable, will flip up or nice shallow S-turn

Fairway drivers
174 Z Predator (pearly plastic, old X stamp), new - the beef. slight dome but is overstable AND has glide
171 Z Predator, new - very flat, mainly forehands and FH rollers
174 Z Predator, beat - well beat in but still very straight even when powered up.
169 Z Undertaker, new - fresh for straight drives and push hyzers
168 Z Undertaker, worn - slightly understable, good for flip ups and long turning shots
174 ESP Avenger SS, newish - too stable for rollers right now, long turnovers are nice though
159 D Avenger SS, new - off the shelf roller. Easy to put down, and always finishes right

Midranges
176 JB Wasp, worn - finally wearing in to straight. still stable enough for most wind
176 MJ ESP Glow Comet, worn - money straight disc in the woods. finesse turning shots too
178 MJ ESP Glow Comet, new - slightly more stable.

Putters
172 Z Zone, newish - almost exclusively used for FH approaches and short FH drives
172 Ti Challenger, some wear - old Ti barstamp, plenty stable for most drives
172 D Challenger, beat - straight and right turning putter shots
174 D Challenger (x2) - putting only

I think 20 discs is the sweet spot for my bag. 2 more than the Shift can carry comfortably, and 2 less than what I'd consider a minimum load for the Octothorpe. I'd like to add 2 discs to this current lineup. Most likely a slightly more overstable Wasp, and possibly a Drone.

With my loadout being about perfect at 18-20 discs, I think I'm going to get a Carlton by next year and sell my Octothorpe.

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Old 09-04-2019, 08:01 AM
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I think I've finally convinced myself that having a putting mold and a throwing putter mold is ok. I'm way more comfortable throwing the Steady than a Challenger - and completely the opposite for putting. I cost myself a few strokes last weekend not being comfortable with throwing Challengers. Just going to have to make it work!

I've always leaned to minimizing molds, which made this harder decision than it needed to be. Results speak for themselves though!
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