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Old 07-31-2018, 09:30 AM
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I've been saying it for years (since I moved here) but I'll say it again... How Madison handles their disc golf courses is silly. Requiring a permit to play in public parks is beyond me. The thought of having to get permits to play on playgrounds or on basketball courts is ridiculous, yet it's okay for disc golf? People can walk the courses for free, but as soon as you start throwing a Frisbee (God forbid), payment is required. It's nonsense.

I rolled my eyes when I saw that permits would be required for all tournament players. You would think that the tax revenue that out-of-town tournament players bring in through lodging, food, etc... would easily offset this fee. Oh well. Having a Madison City Open without actually playing any of the Madison courses will be a blast, right??
Yeah. Seems pretty silly. Around here, if you bring in 200 people for a basketball tournament, half marathon, triathlon, bike race.....they all need permits and are subjected to some silly guidelines. But, it is across the board for all.
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Old 07-31-2018, 10:05 AM
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Sounds like it is time to go past the Parks Department and starting making some stern and yet polite phone calls and emails to the city council.
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:04 PM
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Sounds like it is time to go past the Parks Department and starting making some stern and yet polite phone calls and emails to the city council.
Usually parks systems are not disc golf enterprises. They don't run profits off disc golf. It is a pretty large infrastructure investment and larger maintenance investment. In going to them, voicing displeasure in their rules or financial structure, is to do so from a position of weakness.
Before doing so, somebody (ideally a co-op of the local clubs and TD's) needs to put together a business presentation, detailing what disc golf does and can do for the park system. Specifically addressing the opportunities for the parks to maximize profit. Also need to determine the current pain points the resulted in the parks instituting the undesirable policies to begin with.
I fear, in the long run, the parks are using the policies to accomplish some of the above, and there will be little that the disc golf community can to to mitigate the loss of revenue by reversing some of those policies.
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Old 07-31-2018, 12:15 PM
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I have worked with the same parks department for many years. I've run C, B and A Tiers as well as a Major and have found them easy to work with.

This is on squarely on the tournament director not having his act together.

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Old 07-31-2018, 12:21 PM
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This is on squarely on the tournament director not having his act together.
That doesn't surprise me either.

I already had 2 out-of-towners at other events this year tell me they weren't going to play MCO due to all the shenanigans last year.

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That doesn't surprise me either.

I already had 2 out-of-towners at other events this year tell me they weren't going to play MCO due to all the shenanigans last year.
For the record, I dislike disc golf drama very much. I believe people are inherently good including those running the MCO this year. That said, they aren't the right people for the job. This is there third year. By all accounts, the first one went o.k. There were some issues last year and more of the same this year.

In the grand scheme of things, I am confident the Mad City Open will rebound and be back bigger and better than ever.

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I have worked with the same parks department for many years. I've run C, B and A Tiers as well as a Major and have found them easy to work with.

This is on squarely on the tournament director not having his act together.

Agreed.
The issue with owing money from last year.
Poor planning.
Bad communication with the city, and participants.
Thats 100 percent on the event staff.

My biggest issue is:
How in the world did they open registration without having had any and all negotiations with the city?
Thats crazy.
Changing the event midstream shows a lack of planning in general.
Its pretty bogus that the email sent out makes the city look like the bad guy.

So its the citys fault that they got stiffed on last years bill?
Its the cities fault that the relationship is strained?
Its shady that they tried to shift the blame in their email.

Im super bummed about the event being compromised.
It would be my 7th straight year.
Easily my favorite yearly tourney.

I like the format of saturday 2 rounds of 18.
Sunday 1 round of 18, then head out to watch the final 9 for mpo/fpo.
Playing 27 each day doesnt sound fun to me.


How is a final 9 going to work with everyone playing 27 already that day???
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Old 08-02-2018, 09:11 AM
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Agreed.
The issue with owing money from last year.
Poor planning.
Bad communication with the city, and participants.
Thats 100 percent on the event staff.

My biggest issue is:
How in the world did they open registration without having had any and all negotiations with the city?
Thats crazy.
Changing the event midstream shows a lack of planning in general.
Its pretty bogus that the email sent out makes the city look like the bad guy.

So its the citys fault that they got stiffed on last years bill?
Its the cities fault that the relationship is strained?
Its shady that they tried to shift the blame in their email.

Im super bummed about the event being compromised.
It would be my 7th straight year.
Easily my favorite yearly tourney.

I like the format of saturday 2 rounds of 18.
Sunday 1 round of 18, then head out to watch the final 9 for mpo/fpo.
Playing 27 each day doesnt sound fun to me.


How is a final 9 going to work with everyone playing 27 already that day???
Per the new schedule, there isn't going to be a final 9 for the top open card this year.
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Old 08-02-2018, 01:25 PM
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Per the new schedule, there isn't going to be a final 9 for the top open card this year.
They historically are super slow at totalling things up on sunday after rounds.

The final 9 gave us all something fun to do while they calculated scores and got ready for awards.

Now we will all just sit there?
Super dumb.
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They historically are super slow at totalling things up on sunday after rounds.

The final 9 gave us all something fun to do while they calculated scores and got ready for awards.

Now we will all just sit there?
Super dumb.
Around here, this is some of our favorite time. Get out your most comfy lawn chair, drag your cooler to the shade, crack a couple cold ones and enjoy the opportunity to sit with some friends and solve most of the world's problems.

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