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Old 08-08-2011, 11:22 AM
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you would prob really like the C-TD.. i could get super straight lines on it or nice S shots depending on power and was getting some of my best distance ever with it. Im discn down now but star sidewinder was my main driver and prob will be again once i disc up but i use them for long annys and s shots,etc.
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Old 08-09-2011, 09:44 PM
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I was looking at the numbers and it says a TD is rated the same as a Beast, I have no experience with either but wondered what differences if any people found between them?

I was also very intrigued with the Sidewinder, the numbers make it look super flippy, is it?

I want something that if I put a big anny on, it will hold the line, but if thrown straight will flex slightly and come back just a tade. Maybe this is wanting too much, but it's the shot I can get my Rivers to do, I just want an extra 40-50' on the same line.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:25 AM
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i would say the TD is WAY less stable then a Beast.. its like a faster, straighter roadrunner.. i might not throw at the same power level as you but i love sidewinders.. i have a worn one that will hold an anny and not come back but a fresh would just fine.. i throw stars around 168g.. I dont have much experience with the TD but i know booter likes both the S and C-Line.. my s-line seemed to be more stable then my TD.. or not as understable i guess i should say
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:47 PM
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Blue= newly added red= Gone

Drivers
S-PD, 172g, Long hyzers, straight with good fade, most winds (400')
Champ Orc, 169g, Everything disc, long hyzers, long annys, hyzer-flips (440' farthest ever, most 410')
Star Orc, 169g, Little more stable than the Champ, better fade on it.
Pro Orc, 170g, Max Distance 450ish (hit it today twice)-I find I don't use it much b/c I don't want to loose it, plus not many 400'+ holes around, and the Champ will do most of the same shots.

Fairway Drivers
Opto Trident, 175g, Wind, skips, and spikes
Champ Glo Gazelle, 175g, Same thing as the S-PD only shorter (360')
11x KC Pro Gazelle, 173g,- Replaces the 175g, same thing but it cool.
Champ Glo Gazelle, 170g, Straight without turning over (375')
Star Gazelle, 172g, Trying it out to see if it will replace the 170g, so far so good, just really domey.
Opto River, 173g, Annys and hyzer-flips (400')- This has now replaced the GL b/c it has beat in enough
Opto River, 171g-Fresh, straight, easy hyzers, and annys that come back just a tad
GL River, 176g, Straight to slight anny

Mids
S-GM, 175g, Same line as the Gazelle, but I can really throw this hard without blowing by holes that I do with the Gazelle (325')
Z-Buzzz, 171g, Gentle Hyzers and straight shots
Z-Buzzz SS, 175g- Straight shots, annys that need to stay up a little longer, can put a little more power on than the Fuse, may replace the regular Buzzz
GL Fuse, 177g, Replaced the Buzzz SS understable duties- Annys and Hyzer-flips
ESP Zone, 175g, Trouble disc, FH approaches, spikes, reliable approaches (270')

Putters
Z-Magnet, 171g- Putter and Aproaches
Z-Magnet, 172g, Same

Just a few updates, still looking for the wonderful distance anny disc. Not the TD, A-SS, or Roadrunner. Still haven't tried the Sidewinder or Vision yet.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:18 PM
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Why the Orc and Surge?

You try putting with D Magnets? I'd imagine them to work a little better as far as sticking to the chains, and they would glide better.

I haven't thrown a Fuse but from what I know about it I think Fuse / Buzz would work well. Buzz and Buzz SS don't really show much difference for me unless thrown over 300', and even then the difference isn't huge. Something more true understable is better IMO.

Also curious o hear your thoughts on how the River and Gazelle work different roles for you. I've never thrown a River so I'm just curious. I'd imagine they're a bit longer and start out with less stability?
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Tried a beat in P-PD yet?
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Why the Orc and Surge?

You try putting with D Magnets? I'd imagine them to work a little better as far as sticking to the chains, and they would glide better.

I haven't thrown a Fuse but from what I know about it I think Fuse / Buzz would work well. Buzz and Buzz SS don't really show much difference for me unless thrown over 300', and even then the difference isn't huge. Something more true understable is better IMO.

Also curious o hear your thoughts on how the River and Gazelle work different roles for you. I've never thrown a River so I'm just curious. I'd imagine they're a bit longer and start out with less stability?
Personally I love the combination. The Rivers are extremely neutral, will hold the perfect annys and great for hyzer-flips. They are longer than the Gazelles without the end fade. The Gazelles are great workable drivers but have the nice predictable fade I want. Distance and annys I go with Rivers, Straight, hyzers, and bailout annys I go Gazelle. In fact the Rivers are almost as long as my Orcs.

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Tried a beat in P-PD yet?
Yeah I tried the beat P-PD and honestly it over lapped too much with the River. That and the Rivers hold up a little better. I've thought about trying out an Archon as the understable driver too. God help me, maybe even a Vulcan.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:19 AM
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Sidewinder's worth a try. They're a good S-curving disc and power down easily. If you want to go decidedly understable, Beast or Monarch are worthwhile. You could try a ~165 Orc and beat it in a bit. Personally, I like Monarchs. They get flippy but in a tailwind, downhill or hyzer flipped into a turnover that doesn't fade back, they are really underrated. A beat Valk is good too for something hard to turn and burn. Anything faster though, I can't really help.
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Does the groove on the Monarch bother you much or does it seem to be pretty negligable.
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It doesn't bother me at all. The one on the Groove did but I think it was b/c it's a wider rim. Some people it bothers, some people it doesn't.
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