BillyJackO's Form Adventure*

[sidewinder22]

Just stand up in fairly neutral standing stance(slightly stagger closed) and don't think about swinging. Put your front toes/instep on the ground and push your heel up and away from target, and then press your heel/CoG forward into the ground. You can do this with the front foot pointed slightly open targetward. The heel doesn't have to go land forward of toes, the heel just needs to be driven forward/targetward while toes are on ground, instead of coming straight down flat footed or spinning/backing away from target.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxnhM5amro0#t=1m14s

Note how your front femur is more externally rotated, while Erin's femur is more internally rotated. The less you stagger closed going into the plant or more inline you stride, the easier it is to internally rotate and keep the foot/leg(both feet/legs) swinging underneath the pelvis nice and balanced. When you step over to the left staggering more closed it tends to externally rotate the femur and open up early because that is how you catch yourself off balance. It also moves your body into your swing path instead of keeping out of the way of it. Simon is a freak of nature with crazy balance and flexibility.

I have not played the White course. It's been about 8 years since I was there. Played the Black course with Paul and bunch of locals and guy from Timberdoodle, good times.

[billyjacko]

Made a quick video of the home course. Figured I'd share it here.

[sidewinder22]

Nice!

Kind of reminds me of Pat Pitts. Try keeping the arm/disc more vertical/inside in backswing and striding more left to right/feet out of the way, knees don't need to crossover.

[billyjacko]

That makes sense. I can see how far my x-step and reach back has come, but there are still glaring flaws holding my distance potential back. I can see how his more in-line x-step and plant allows him to engage his hips about 5 frames before me.

It's come a long ways, though. The 10' run up and disc dragging behind for half of it makes my brain hurt.

[billyjacko]

Just posting here to make sure I start overthinking my form again since I'm throwing further with more accuracy than ever.

[sidewinder22]

You crazy... socks on wood deck.

Looks like you don't really get balanced/leveraged on rear leg/hip depth/buttwipe and end up landing more stuck between your feet instead of moving from true one foot balance to other foot balance. Your front foot should be more stable balanced closer to toes rather than behind your heel.

Try walking perpendicular to target back and forth so your legs are more inline like normal walk instead of lateral split. Feel how your balances moves over the feet/legs perpendicular to target.
https://www.dgcoursereview.com/forum...d.php?t=136487

Instead of Simon Syndrome moving too diagonal staggered closed, try striding the opposite diagonal direction into plant and turn back front side and landing more pressure toes first and moving to right to heel. Your pressure is too much on rear toes and front heel and moving left toward toes, instead of spreading/rolling that pressure balanced through the foot/feet.

[billyjacko]

It's winter time, and you know what that means?!?! TOWELL TIMEEEE. I'm concentrating on staying wide and working on pumping my left hand toward the target paced with my rear foot a la battering ram (picked this up from watching all of Ezra's youtube vids). It's made it much easier to feel the super late acceleration, and it's matched with what I'm seeing in the vidja.


OLD

[UhhNegative]

Timing on off arm on the OLD looks better than the x-step to me. Off-arm looks a little passive on the x-step in comparison. But I mean... you've got a great throw now I was so scared for your arm hitting the wall on the x-step.

[billyjacko]

Originally Posted by UhhNegative

Timing on off arm on the OLD looks better than the x-step to me. Off-arm looks a little passive on the x-step in comparison. But I mean... you've got a great throw now I was so scared for your arm hitting the wall on the x-step.

Ya, hard to go full bore inside. I smacked a chair inside a few months ago and thought I broke my hand.

I've learned the off arm has a lot less to do with distant potential. There's a few dudes I play with in Austin that have no off-side counter and throw 450-500+.

Here's one of them.

[sidewinder22]

Not bad for a towel. OLD looks like your shin remains angled \ to the left, instead of going vertical or / to the right, so you are too over your toes. Shift/walk back to the right tee in OLD to the rear foot.