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Old 02-14-2019, 11:38 PM
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Just checked those clips, and although he claims they show what he is teaching, I’m not seeing it. Especially not to the 45 degree off target he is claiming.
The dudes the real deal he can throw... he's like the grandfather of "More Snap", YouTube it.... See if you can find that diagram in here it helped me a lot

So the body leads, you plant, reach back with Arm, shift weight forward....
(Your arm is the whip/ towel /pendulum whatever)
Pull the disc in on a 45 degree angle to under your nipple at the same time point your elbow 30 degrees away from the target.
(This is how you are "extra" loading your arm)
As you turn your hips forward you unload your arm. Point your elbow at the target, snap it hard and let it loose!
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Old 02-14-2019, 11:45 PM
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The dudes the real deal he can throw... he's like the grandfather of "More Snap", YouTube it.... See if you can find that diagram in here it helped me a lot

So the body leads, you plant, reach back with Arm, shift weight forward....
(Your arm is the whip/ towel /pendulum whatever)
Pull the disc in on a 45 degree angle to under your nipple at the same time point your elbow 30 degrees away from the target.
(This is how you are "extra" loading your arm)
As you turn your hips forward you unload your arm. Point your elbow at the target, snap it hard and let it loose!
Still doesn’t make any sense to me... if you’re reaching 180 degrees away from your target, like every expert with any bonafides says you should, and pull at 45 to the left of target, you just wasted the purpose of a reach back. In that case, you may as well just set up with your arm already in the power pocket. I dunno, just speaking from experience, all this stuff did was ruin my throw for a couple weeks until I undid it. Maybe I need to see it done in person.

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Old 02-15-2019, 12:06 AM
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So when it's a 45 degree angle with the arm... that is kind of straight at the basket as your body is also pointing 45 degrees from the target. The back of your shoulder should be pointing at the basket when you start your throw.

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Just found this thread after starting disc golf a few weeks ago. This is a gold mine of info. Thanks so much Bradley Walker and all the other people helping with the teaching of this method/technique. Something I'll have to dive into in detail and start working on in my free time on the weekends and hopefully 1-2 evenings during the weekdays when I have time as well. Stuff like this is SO important to learn the nuances of the swing/throw. And without people like BW, Slowplastic, SW22, HUB and others, us newbies would have NO idea what to do or even how to do it. So thank you guys! I'll be mining this forum for more nuggets of gold on how to throw in my quest to become a good disc golfer

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Old 05-14-2019, 06:57 PM
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Bumping for a great video. I finally got out to a field to practice what is taught in the video of the first post. Wow, this is enlightening. It made me realize that I've been collapsing my front shoulder early all along. By trying to keep the arrow (forearm) pointed left it helps keep the shoulder square longer. I could instantly feel more pop and spin so I know this is going to help. As with any radical change my accuracy went down as I couldn't dial in my release point and I was turning the disc over too much but that's okay. Right now I'm just happy to be getting that feeling of extra pop and I feel I can fine tune the release with practice. Thanks Bradley! By the way where is Bradley? Did we run him off?
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By the way where is Bradley? Did we run him off?
Yup, ran him off but good. He hangs out on facebook.


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Old 05-14-2019, 08:06 PM
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Atta boy keep Facebook mining and posting it here.. Thanks
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Yup, ran him off but good. He hangs out on facebook.

I personally think his other video of pointing elbow towards left was more helpful as it seems to encourage later hit with the wrist hinge.

Seems like you want to resist the fist from throwing out to left for as long as possible rather than throw it out there. It will fling out left automatically.

But I'm guessing he's just trying to say it's not a linear throw...

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Old 05-15-2019, 12:10 PM
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This was posted 7 years ago on DGR but is still good advice. Good balance and sequence will get you to 350 fairway distance without any special arm angles or wrist curl.

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With the more advanced discussion on snap, arcs, pivots, etc. that has developed over the past few years (and didn't exist until recently), it seems it is steering newer players down the wrong path.
These techniques are just too advanced and require too much coordination and body awareness to where someone who can't throw 350' [fairway driver] probably can't do them and attempts to do them will be counter productive.

A few examples:
-A strong heel pivot is the result of a very strong throwing form. A strong heel pivot will not make your throwing form strong.
-The disc pivot is the biproduct of a very defined and strong motion. You should not try to force it to happen by loosening your grip.

What I have been seeing a lot of is the equivalent of someone who started to play basketball 3/6/12 months ago and are now trying to perform hardaway's utep-two-step. if you haven't already mastered dribbling with both hands, you will fail.

What I am finding is that anyone who can hit the standard plateau, e.g. 350-ish teebird power, 380-ish wraith power, etc., is able to pickup the advanced techniques with relative ease and minor retooling.
Those who try to perform the advanced techniques before that plateau, ends up ruining their form into requiring a complete rebuild just to get something decent.

If you aren't there yet, save yourself a headache and work on the basics. When you have those mastered, it's time to move on.

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Its really too bad he was so instantly offended by small disagreements in verbage and left. It is always good to hear the same thing explained in different ways and he is getting very close to the same explanations we have going on here already, just different queues that help different people.

Like he is finally talking about the lower body... seems there is still some work there but the inward pull outward ejection is what is being discussed in many of the current threads here.
That punch out is the exact same thing as knocking a ball off a tee. He's getting very close to what SW has been saying for a long time about keeping the upper arm angle the same.

Also have to agree with 46YOslinger on the immediate drop in accuracy, but the elbow pointed 30 degrees off is just a queue and tool to keep the shoulder closed longer. The whip out took me some work to keep from rounding, which is basically not completing the inward pull... or just starting the outward ejection early... actually goes back to the Beto drill. Take this info, and the outward swing and revisit the Beto drill not trying to throw the disc at the target but use that outward ejection arm motion.

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