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Old 03-11-2020, 08:54 PM
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Had a chance to play a round with the soft x zone today. This is a great complement to my esp zone. It doesn't have much ground play at all. Exactly what I was looking for. Now I wonder how quickly it will beat up.
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Old 04-13-2020, 07:23 PM
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Transitioning to the Zone from Harps. Starting to incorporate a forehand into my game and the Zone seems to work better for me.

Anyhow, I have Zones in jawbreaker, titanium, Z, and Z-FLX.

I haven’t thrown my Z. It’s a 10th anniversary edition and I bought it for the cool stamp and don’t really want to throw it.

I’m looking for something with a bit more ground action or skip compared to the jawbreaker, FLX, and titanium.

Will an ESP be stiffer and maybe offer a little more ground action?

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Old 04-13-2020, 08:25 PM
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any zoners willing to make a flight wise comparison of zone to the justice
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Old 04-14-2020, 04:41 AM
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any zoners willing to make a flight wise comparison of zone to the justice
Justice has more fade and handles torque and anhyzer better. I mean i can throw the Justice on a steep anhyzer straight towards the ground and it flexes out. Zone acts more like a overstable putter and is easier to control. I think they both could fit in the same bag.

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Old 04-14-2020, 06:09 AM
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Transitioning to the Zone from Harps. Starting to incorporate a forehand into my game and the Zone seems to work better for me.

Anyhow, I have Zones in jawbreaker, titanium, Z, and Z-FLX.

I haven’t thrown my Z. It’s a 10th anniversary edition and I bought it for the cool stamp and don’t really want to throw it.

I’m looking for something with a bit more ground action or skip compared to the jawbreaker, FLX, and titanium.

Will an ESP be stiffer and maybe offer a little more ground action?

Thanks.
I think the best Zone for "ground action" is the CryZtal, but that´s hard to find. . .Stock Z works fine

I use a new CryZtal and beat X Soft as my "Zone combo" . .or a CryZtal FLX if its cold

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Old 04-14-2020, 09:13 AM
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Justice has more fade and handles torque and anhyzer better. I mean i can throw the Justice on a steep anhyzer straight towards the ground and it flexes out. Zone acts more like a overstable putter and is easier to control. I think they both could fit in the same bag.
if both released flat which one would go farther

i dont have a zone to compare side by side so i was just trying to go off memory
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Old 04-14-2020, 09:24 AM
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Transitioning to the Zone from Harps. Starting to incorporate a forehand into my game and the Zone seems to work better for me.

Anyhow, I have Zones in jawbreaker, titanium, Z, and Z-FLX.

I haven’t thrown my Z. It’s a 10th anniversary edition and I bought it for the cool stamp and don’t really want to throw it.

I’m looking for something with a bit more ground action or skip compared to the jawbreaker, FLX, and titanium.

Will an ESP be stiffer and maybe offer a little more ground action?

Thanks.
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I think the best Zone for "ground action" is the CryZtal, but that´s hard to find. . .Stock Z works fine

I use a new CryZtal and beat X Soft as my "Zone combo" . .or a CryZtal FLX if its cold
I was gonna say Z or CryZtal too (Big Z is harder to find but also works great), but my Ti or ESP can skip too. In general, Zones are way more dependent on the type of ground for any ground action than, say beefy fairways. But one thing I have used Zones for over the years is basically throwing them into the ground at a low angle (e.g from a knee) and trusting in a little bit of scoot forward. This has become less important as I've figured out more conventional approaches.

But if I really want ground action I typically jump to my Champ Firebird. That way if grass is wet or grabby, or ground is otherwise unfavorable, I can still trust some skip.

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Old 04-14-2020, 03:19 PM
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any zoners willing to make a flight wise comparison of zone to the justice
Unless you are talking about a super puddle top OS zone, the justice is likely going to be more OS. But the justice is faster so you can do really similar things with them. The big difference to me is what they do on flex lines. You'll get a much more dramatic flex out of a justice where a zone may just pan out and land flat. I've never thrown a zone and justice max distance back to back, but I would guess the zone would go further since there's a bigger difference in stability between the two than there is in speed.

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Old 04-14-2020, 04:22 PM
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if both released flat which one would go farther

i dont have a zone to compare side by side so i was just trying to go off memory
Justice is close to a BuzzzOS, and I bag both the OS and Zone.

For me the OS goes farther. Like mentioned above the Justice/OS will flex, and will glide out (with what little glide it has) more than the Zone. Thrown flat they are pretty close for me though....

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Old 04-14-2020, 05:47 PM
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Unless you are talking about a super puddle top OS zone, the justice is likely going to be more OS. But the justice is faster so you can do really similar things with them. The big difference to me is what they do on flex lines. You'll get a much more dramatic flex out of a justice where a zone may just pan out and land flat. I've never thrown a zone and justice max distance back to back, but I would guess the zone would go further since there's a bigger difference in stability between the two than there is in speed.
im talkin run of the mill esp or z zone

that makes complete sense thank you
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