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Threw one of these for the first time. Plastic seems like swirled opto. 171g. Disc has a dome, but isn't a pop top. Very sharp, shallow, wide rimmed disc. The Ballista Pro seems flatter/thinner than the regular Ballista. This disc feels like a weapon.

Holy cow, I'm impressed! The Ballista Pro isn't merely fast, it HOWLS. I'm not sure I've ever thrown a disc that sliced through the air as efficiently. I feel like the Ballista Pro is even faster than other speed 14 drivers. I was doing field work today with some other long drivers, and the Ballista Pro was noticeably faster than all of them. I usually throw a Nuke and Boss for long distance shots on the course, but this disc is WAAAYYY faster than both of them.

I love the flight of the Ballista Pro. It doesn't really have any high speed turn, but will hold a flat line for a long time before fading. I found that even when I wasn't flexing it out that the disc would end up as far as other fast drivers. I did have one special throw that I torqued over just a hair. The Ballista Pro rode on a gentle anny for a while before slowly transitioning from flat to fade. It was one of the more incredible drives I've ever thrown, and ended up going about 440'. This isn't the longest driver I've ever thrown (but it may be if I work with it more and get practiced). I can still get Shrykes and other flippy, glidey stuff further. However, the Ballista Pro will go nearly as far on a lower, straighter line without all the glide and S curve.

This is an overstable disc that isn't complete beef. The Ballista Pro has a very prolonged, subtle fade that results in a lot of extra distance. It penetrates better than perhaps any driver I've ever seen. The disc is a little power hungry, and will respond well to all the arm you give it.

I would HIGHLY recommend this disc to anyone wanting a manageable warp speed distance driver. The Ballista Pro was easier to throw than I thought it would be. It wasn't as harshly overstable as some other discs. It even slipped out of my hand a couple times (rim is super shallow) and still got a halfway decent flight. I like that the Ballista Pro is resistant to high speed turn, yet actually has a fairly neutral flight without the early, heavy fade.

Ballista Pro: 14, 5, -0.5, 3: I don't know if speeds even go up to 15, but this disc may be pushing it. Just lightning fast. The Ballista Pro is one of the more intriguing drivers I've thrown in a long while, and was more manageable than I thought it would be. You don't need 450' power to crush it. It has the faintest hint of high speed turn on hard, flat releases. A very worthy big brother to the regular Ballista. Wind didn't seem to bother it one way or the other. It isn't overly touchy.
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Old 01-02-2020, 09:35 AM
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I think this is correct..ballista pro naturally like to g.j o straight and low..and far....i find it will turn right and stay out there if flexed or flat in a wind...it is very accurate for its distance if thrown flat...my star destroyers feel like teebirds compared ...I like it.
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Are these plus molds? I am having weird releases not unlike the Halo.
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Are these plus molds? I am having weird releases not unlike the Halo.
I don't think its a plus mold, but the rim is very shallow and wide. I noticed a few bad releases too. I think the rim on the BPro is shallower than the regular Ballista.

My next distance competition is going to be Ballista Pro vs. Knight. I'll be interested to see the results.
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Old 01-02-2020, 10:31 PM
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I don't think its a plus mold, but the rim is very shallow and wide. I noticed a few bad releases too. I think the rim on the BPro is shallower than the regular Ballista.

My next distance competition is going to be Ballista Pro vs. Knight. I'll be interested to see the results.
If you can, try to find one in the recycled gold line type plastic. They grip a lot better than the Optos do. With the shallow rim it makes a big difference.
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Just wanna say another good thing about the ballista pro I played yesterday and there is a long downhill .. I miss through it throwing it to low probably only a foot off the ground but it took an insane skip straight another 80' which I couldn't believe and was still considerably further than the other guys drives which were decent.. It really is a reliable straightt long disk if you can throw with reasonable power
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Old 01-05-2020, 09:09 PM
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So, I threw my 2nd Ballista Pro today. Opto, 169g. The one I'd thrown prior was swirled Opto 174g.

Anyway, the 169 Opto is a LOT less stable. I won't quite call it flippy, but the disc has high speed turn, and isn't always able to fade back to straight. I even lost it to the right a few times on hard rips into a very slight headwind/breeze. This disc wasn't turning and burning, but it was gradually turning right the whole flight. It would end up a good 400' away, but well right of the intended target.

One thing this new B Pro does that my first one didn't is hold the flat part of the flight for a long, long time. It was smashing. Just good, straight power with a gradual late fade. Interestingly, this disc is still behind my Knight for sheer distance. The Knight glides a little better and is simply faster.

I guess my point is, I've now thrown 2 Ballista Pros, and to me they feel like 2 very different discs. My 1st one is decidedly overstable, while the 2nd one is straight to almost flippy. The 2nd B Pro is still more overstable than a regular Ballista, but it absolutely is NOT a wind fighter. This seems to be an intriguing mold, but now I'm not really sure what to expect out of it. Apparently you can get everything from overstable to almost flippy with this mold.

Ballista Pro swirl Opto: 14, 4, 0, 3
Opto Ballista Pro: 14, 4, -1.5, 2

The 5 gram weight difference could be a factor. The regular Opto Ballista Pro is a lot longer than the swirled one. It flexes out massively and holds that flight for a long while before fading.
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