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Old 05-19-2019, 11:30 PM
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The Envy is the best and most classic mold approved in the last 10 years. Discuss.

I don't know what constitutes a mold being the best or most classic other than that I would have to really like it, and it would have to stand out when compared to other molds.

Axiom Envies are good molds. I just don't find that I need one.

I live at a relatively low elevation, and have found that my Envies (Neutron and Electron) were just a bit too straight, and with not quite enough fight in them when dealing with headwinds. They lack the bite at the end of their flights that I have come to expect from a throwing putter.

It is my preference to use a stiff base plastic for throwing putters. Lat64's BT Hard has been my plastic choice for a while now, so Harps have been in my bag rather than Zones (Soft X and Jawbreaker plastics not being stiff enough). When Hard Harps beat in, they become similar to Envies.

If the MVP Entropy comes out in Electron Firm plastic sometime in the future, then that will likely be something that can compete with my Hard Harps.
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:32 PM
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Sonic is most defiantly a Classic Mold, nothing quite like it that was made first as a disc golf disc then second as a dog disc in lighter weights. The Latiude 64 Bite was made as a dog disc first but has made it into a few Scandinavian pro sponsored disc golf bags, they had the Wham-O Fastback molds before getting sponsored.
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Old 01-14-2020, 04:12 AM
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For me personally,
And I'm going to focus on relatively newer discs that I've experienced:

Nova
Fd
Fuse
Trident
Trespass
Enforcer
Diamond
Pure
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Old 01-14-2020, 09:43 AM
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Beaded Aviar
Wizard
Roc
Buzzz
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:02 AM
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For me personally,
And I'm going to focus on relatively newer discs that I've experienced:

Nova
Fd
Fuse
Trident
Trespass
Enforcer
Diamond
Pure
I'm thinking a big issue with any of the newer discs ever being considered a "classic" is that there are so many discs out that you can easily avoid a disc. When I started playing I hated Aviars and tried my best to avoid them, but there just wasn't a lot of options and I eventually sucked it up and threw them. Then I became a big Aviar guy.

Fast forward 20 years and I had a lot of friends who raved about the Fuse. It's probably a really good disc. I don't have to throw it, though. There are a lot of good options that will allow you to avoid it. You put it on a list of "classic" molds and a bunch of us go "hun?" since we haven't tried it.

Pretty much every Lat 64/Westside/Dynamic disc has this issue. I'm not disputing that they have good discs, but everything they make has an equivelent disc from another company and I don't have to throw any of them. It's a much different era than the Aviar/Roc or TeeBird/Firebird-eras. Those discs you had to try; there just wasn't much in the way of options if you didn't.

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Old 01-14-2020, 10:40 AM
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I'm thinking a big issue with any of the newer discs ever being considered a "classic" is that there are so many discs out that you can easily avoid a disc. When I started playing I hated Aviars and tried my best to avoid them, but there just wasn't a lot of options and I eventually sucked it up and threw them. Then I became a big Aviar guy.

Fast forward 20 years and I had a lot of friends who raved about the Fuse. It's probably a really good disc. I don't have to throw it, though. There are a lot of good options that will allow you to avoid it. You put it on a list of "classic" molds and a bunch of us go "hun?" since we haven't tried it.

Pretty much every Lat 64/Westside/Dynamic disc has this issue. I'm not disputing that they have good discs, but everything they make has an equivelent disc from another company and I don't have to throw any of them. It's a much different era than the Aviar/Roc or TeeBird/Firebird-eras. Those discs you had to try; there just wasn't much in the way of options if you didn't.

I agree. When there are hundreds of molds available its hard for any one of them to really get noticed enough to become a classic.

Most of Innova's classic discs were pioneers, the first of their class introduced. Trilogy does actually make some good molds, but they probably won't ever be thrown by enough people to become classics. Plus, there are numerous discs in all speed classes nowadays that will do exactly the same shot.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:09 PM
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I'm thinking a big issue with any of the newer discs ever being considered a "classic" is that there are so many discs out that you can easily avoid a disc. When I started playing I hated Aviars and tried my best to avoid them, but there just wasn't a lot of options and I eventually sucked it up and threw them. Then I became a big Aviar guy.

Fast forward 20 years and I had a lot of friends who raved about the Fuse. It's probably a really good disc. I don't have to throw it, though. There are a lot of good options that will allow you to avoid it. You put it on a list of "classic" molds and a bunch of us go "hun?" since we haven't tried it.

Pretty much every Lat 64/Westside/Dynamic disc has this issue. I'm not disputing that they have good discs, but everything they make has an equivelent disc from another company and I don't have to throw any of them. It's a much different era than the Aviar/Roc or TeeBird/Firebird-eras. Those discs you had to try; there just wasn't much in the way of options if you didn't.


Well I come from the time of pre trilogy, that's when I started.
So I had plenty of experience with most innova discs.
You don't HAVE to try a fuse, but maybe you should to see what you might be missing.

Trust me, I don't choose the discs on my list lightly.

There's something special about all of them. Enough so for me to only throw them when things count and leave all my collectable and amazing innova at home.

Other than the Nova teebird sidewinder
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Lighter weight Envy is just as stable and glides for days - I can easily get them out past most mids with no high speed turn.

Trident wouldn't be something I'd call a classic, but it is certainly a unique mold. No equivalents to those I'm aware of, I've never gotten to throw any of the "good" Banshees, closest might be a Resistor.
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Forgot to add the zone on my list, not sure if it's too old but it should be a classic by now
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