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Have you ever tried a Mint Alpha? It feels similar to the Savant but longer and more workable. The Alpha is marketed as a fairway but actually has a thicker rim than the Savant (2.0 and 1.9).
I haven't but I'm an MVP fan and the alpha is using MVP plastics - I heard they vary a LOT by run. I'll look into it, definitely a disc I've been wanting to try. I heard it was really Teebird3 ish, and the Volts I have and thunderbird kinda overlap that already. But, ehhh ill give it a shot many people have recommended it.
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Old 05-14-2019, 03:11 PM
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I'm looking for that buttery straight disc that still has enough stability to handle power. Ie: I've been searching for a 10/5/-1/2 disc for a LONG time - I found the Discmania CD in S line and I loved it but I guess they are OOP and hard to find. I didn't love the CD2 as it wasn't much different than Volts I throw. I've tried a lot of discs to find this flight - a control drver for decent distance that will flip flat and ride a long straight line (maybe SLIGHT turnover) then stable out. For long tunnel drives. So far the Volt does that well but not AS long as other discs. I have a Millenium Orion that's beat up and flies GREAT but I know they tweaked the mold and idk if its any different than an ORC which I tried also and nice star orcs were hard to find, the last one I got was domey as F and sharp flashing. I really like the Innova Starfire in Star Plastic. its not as OS as described in star and at 167-170g so it flies close to what I want plus I like the feel of the rim. I also use a Vulture and that's decent but the ESP feels weird in the hand to me. So I'm still on the search. from what I gather the Savant is clunky and dumpy and not quite a 9/5/-1/2..... I picked up a couple mcbeth undertakers and they are actually really nice - about the flight I want but not AS long/fast and the rim is kinda sharp in the Ti plastic.

Thanks for the heads up on this disc. I MAYYYYYY give it a try but from what I gather it was a mini-fail on the flight/control and glide.
It almost sounds like you need an Orc or a PD. Both of those are speed 10 and have a pretty neutral flight.

The Savant is clunky. I thought it flew way worse than a Thunderbird. It had a harder late fade. I thought the Savant was more like 9, 4, 0, 3. Not quite as hooky as a Firebird, but the same general flight.

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Old 05-14-2019, 04:53 PM
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It almost sounds like you need an Orc or a PD. Both of those are speed 10 and have a pretty neutral flight.

The Savant is clunky. I thought it flew way worse than a Thunderbird. It had a harder late fade. I thought the Savant was more like 9, 4, 0, 3. Not quite as hooky as a Firebird, but the same general flight.
thanks yeah I think ill pass on it. It felt great in the hand but I didn't want to bust out $18 for it right there - wanted to research. yeah I used Cd's and TD's and really like them, I want a beat S-PD like, right away - im also looking at the millennium Orion, I have an old one that is beat but flies EXACTLY like I want - I had the best shot ever on a hole this past weekend with it, its my water disc but its a great one. So I may try to find a nice S-PD in like 170 and just work it. same with a Millenium S-Orion LF and get one like 168-170 and beat it up. I think that's what I need and just cycle them, I just prefer to be able to but a new disc to have the flight I want instead of having to let it wear in first. oh well. some day they'll put out that true 10/5/-1/2 disc that I need
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:50 PM
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well. some day they'll put out that true 10/5/-1/2 disc that I need
The Starfire-L (SL) is 10, 5, -1, 2 and is an awesome disc.

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Old 05-14-2019, 06:59 PM
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It almost sounds like you need an Orc or a PD. Both of those are speed 10 and have a pretty neutral flight.

The Savant is clunky. I thought it flew way worse than a Thunderbird. It had a harder late fade. I thought the Savant was more like 9, 4, 0, 3. Not quite as hooky as a Firebird, but the same general flight.
Mine Isn't that stable, but it is kind of clunky. it doesn't seem to have much glide though.
Mine flies like a shorter Pro Starfire/(SL).

Not sure what I'm going to do with it.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:32 AM
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The Starfire-L (SL) is 10, 5, -1, 2 and is an awesome disc.
I Agree, I wish they still made it. I actually have one but its signed by Barry Schultz. So I don't throw it.....though I did a couple rounds haha. I'm carrying a couple Star Starfires right now. They work in pretty quick. But yeah I think this is one disc type most companies are missing I think mainly because most players will use a slightly more OS disc that beats into that sweet spot, they do it with PD's, Thunderbirds, etc. But alas it IS the Archer not the arrow ---usually, but I sure could use a nice arrow.
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I Agree, I wish they still made it. I actually have one but its signed by Barry Schultz. So I don't throw it.....though I did a couple rounds haha. I'm carrying a couple Star Starfires right now. They work in pretty quick. But yeah I think this is one disc type most companies are missing I think mainly because most players will use a slightly more OS disc that beats into that sweet spot, they do it with PD's, Thunderbirds, etc. But alas it IS the Archer not the arrow ---usually, but I sure could use a nice arrow.
They do still make them: Pro Starfires are SLs, unless they made a change very recently. You might still find Star SLs, particularly the Valarie Jenkings Commemorative ones that were made after Val won her fourth World title, and there are a bunch of F2 SLs in Pro and Star out there (I know, because I have a few of them ).

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They do still make them: Pro Starfires are SLs, unless they made a change very recently. You might still find Star SLs, particularly the Valarie Jenkings Commemorative ones that were made after Val won her fourth World title, and there are a bunch of F2 SLs in Pro and Star out there (I know, because I have a few of them ).
I want a disc that is regularly made and easy to find/replace. I would totally use PD's but I want S-line in white and I swear they never have those. I went the route of getting a 'special' disc and when I want to get some its a pain. So I decided to hold out for a disc that is easy to find in premium white plastic or premium blue plastic. Blue being easier than most to find. the Streamline Trace is actually really nice but its almost TOO fast (more 11 speed) for what I want it for. I loved Valkyries for the longest time, still do. I have a few I pop in the bag from time to time. Champ Glow Valks are nice.

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I want a disc that is regularly made and easy to find/replace. I would totally use PD's but I want S-line in white and I swear they never have those. I went the route of getting a 'special' disc and when I want to get some its a pain. So I decided to hold out for a disc that is easy to find in premium white plastic or premium blue plastic. Blue being easier than most to find. the Streamline Trace is actually really nice but its almost TOO fast (more 11 speed) for what I want it for. I loved Valkyries for the longest time, still do. I have a few I pop in the bag from time to time. Champ Glow Valks are nice.
I definitely understand wanting production discs. I stocked up on SLs and F2 SLs after Val's Worlds win because I knew I would likely not have another chance to do so. I also stocked up on Green Hornets when Discraft took the Hornet OOP. It is a pain having to deal with a disc one loves going OOP.

As to color: I understand wanting white and blue, especially light blue, as they are easier to find. I would add light, bright, not-too-red, not-too-purple Pink to those that are easy to find, as well, and I try to get pink or light blue whenever I can. But if yellow or orange are all they have in the mold and weight I want, I'll go ahead and get the disc.

What I will NOT buy are discs the color of Georgia pine straw, and those blah swirly colors that resemble earth tones and dog vomit. Ti Buzzzes used to be very bad about being hard-to-find colors (except blue); they're a llittle better now.

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I definitely understand wanting production discs. I stocked up on SLs and F2 SLs after Val's Worlds win because I knew I would likely not have another chance to do so. I also stocked up on Green Hornets when Discraft took the Hornet OOP. It is a pain having to deal with a disc one loves going OOP.

As to color: I understand wanting white and blue, especially light blue, as they are easier to find. I would add light, bright, not-too-red, not-too-purple Pink to those that are easy to find, as well, and I try to get pink or light blue whenever I can. But if yellow or orange are all they have in the mold and weight I want, I'll go ahead and get the disc.

What I will NOT buy are discs the color of Georgia pine straw, and those blah swirly colors that resemble earth tones and dog vomit. Ti Buzzzes used to be very bad about being hard-to-find colors (except blue); they're a llittle better now.
haha all the swirly ESP and Swirly Star discs (more-so the Discmania and Innova ones) come out looking like mud and would be terrible to find in those conditions. I am a bit OCD and for the summer, all my discs are white - my putters/approach discs are black (or gray) and that's just how I roll, SO easy for me to always know im looking for a white one. Also it makes the bag look clean without that one random mis-colored disc in there. In the winter I use All blue with the same black/gray putters. I'm liking it so I'll stick with it. I'm looking into the Millenium Orion as its a lot like an Orc and that was always a good disc.
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