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Old 01-28-2020, 04:25 PM
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I don't care for them because of how deep the grip is, but the flight of the Innova Nova reminds me of a slowed down Comet.
I agree the Novas flight is similar to a slower Comet. The Nova feels fine in my grip though. To each his own.
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Old 01-28-2020, 05:15 PM
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I'm a big fan of a premium plastic Pa4 for putter-comet shots. They're a little more stable than a Gateway Magic, and much like a Comet, a lot of people hate how it feels in the hand.

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Old 01-28-2020, 05:27 PM
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Let's all be honest, nothing throws quite like a Comet.
The Disc you name is taken from by Wham-O is an example of midrange type disc like a Comet.

Another for longer type of Comet is the Sidwinder and due to the wing shape will feel like a Comet.
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Old 01-28-2020, 05:48 PM
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It's the only disc I know of that pisses me off because I can't throw. I see great things with that mold but the grip doesn't work for me.
I cannot figure out how people power grip comets. I have only ever been able to fan or fork grip them.
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Old 01-28-2020, 06:41 PM
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I understand this is old but what is the desired shape of Pro Leopard to mimic a good x Comet?


Short answer? I use a tool I designed.

Long answer:
Here is the tool I created to help me buy new copies of discs I already love. I call it the Marm O. Gauge. I take the disc I love and painstakingly recreate the geometry using various methods, digitize it, then print it. Ideally, this would be laser-cut from something rigid (plastic, aluminum, etc) but thick cardstock works too. The graphic up above is my perfect Pro Leo that is very Comet-like for my throwing style.

Here’s how I use it:
1. Create the tool. Whatever you decide to use, make sure it is at least relatively stiff. Also… take your time and make sure you are cutting the gauge’s EXACT profile. Little changes make big differences. I included a 1 inch scale to make sure your print is correctly scaled.

2. Place the new disc candidate on a flat, hard surface.

3. Place the gauge on the flat surface next to the candidate and check use the line to check the PLH. The gauge's bottom edge needs to stay in contact with the flat surface for the gauge to work properly; tiny PLH shifts can be really noticeable in a disc's stability. Use the If the PLH is out of the acceptable range, put the candidate back on the shelf and choose a new candidate. If the PLH is close, continue to the next step.

4. Slide the Marm O. Gauge’s bottom edge along the flat surface until it contacts the disc’s profile. Again, the gauge's bottom edge needs to stay in contact with the flat surface for the gauge to work properly. Make sure the gauge points directly toward the center of the disc. This makes sure the gauge is aligned with the disc’s radius instead of a random chord.

5. If the candidate's profile and the gauge's profile match well enough, I use the top of the gauge to check the dome height. Slide the candidate to the edge of the flat surface and stick the gauge underneath. The projections on the top of the gauge should straddle the disc’s sprue artifacts. If the gauge raises the disc off the surface, the disc isn’t as domey as the one I love. If I can push the candidate’s dome down before it contacts the gauge, the candidate is domier than the one I love. One of my gauge designs will stand upright on the flat surface so that you don’t have to bring the disc to the edge. Plop the gauge down, put the disc’s center over it and hopefully it’s a perfect match.

6. If everything matches up, the candidate comes with me to it’s forever home

If there is enough interest in this tool then I will shoot a video and create a dedicated thread describing all this.

And yes, I realize I'm uber-nerdy


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Old 01-28-2020, 06:57 PM
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Short answer? I use a tool I designed.

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Old 01-28-2020, 08:51 PM
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I cannot figure out how people power grip comets. I have only ever been able to fan or fork grip them.
Power grip all the things. I even power grip ultrastars, always have.

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Old 01-28-2020, 10:58 PM
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Power grip all the things. I even power grip ultrastars, always have.
I can power grip all things through Him who strengthens me.

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Old 01-28-2020, 11:49 PM
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Short answer? I use a tool I designed.

Long answer:
Here is the tool I created to help me buy new copies of discs I already love. I call it the Marm O. Gauge. I take the disc I love and painstakingly recreate the geometry using various methods, digitize it, then print it. Ideally, this would be laser-cut from something rigid (plastic, aluminum, etc) but thick cardstock works too. The graphic up above is my perfect Pro Leo that is very Comet-like for my throwing style.

Here’s how I use it:
1. Create the tool. Whatever you decide to use, make sure it is at least relatively stiff. Also… take your time and make sure you are cutting the gauge’s EXACT profile. Little changes make big differences. I included a 1 inch scale to make sure your print is correctly scaled.

2. Place the new disc candidate on a flat, hard surface.

3. Place the gauge on the flat surface next to the candidate and check use the line to check the PLH. The gauge's bottom edge needs to stay in contact with the flat surface for the gauge to work properly; tiny PLH shifts can be really noticeable in a disc's stability. Use the If the PLH is out of the acceptable range, put the candidate back on the shelf and choose a new candidate. If the PLH is close, continue to the next step.

4. Slide the Marm O. Gauge’s bottom edge along the flat surface until it contacts the disc’s profile. Again, the gauge's bottom edge needs to stay in contact with the flat surface for the gauge to work properly. Make sure the gauge points directly toward the center of the disc. This makes sure the gauge is aligned with the disc’s radius instead of a random chord.

5. If the candidate's profile and the gauge's profile match well enough, I use the top of the gauge to check the dome height. Slide the candidate to the edge of the flat surface and stick the gauge underneath. The projections on the top of the gauge should straddle the disc’s sprue artifacts. If the gauge raises the disc off the surface, the disc isn’t as domey as the one I love. If I can push the candidate’s dome down before it contacts the gauge, the candidate is domier than the one I love. One of my gauge designs will stand upright on the flat surface so that you don’t have to bring the disc to the edge. Plop the gauge down, put the disc’s center over it and hopefully it’s a perfect match.

6. If everything matches up, the candidate comes with me to it’s forever home

If there is enough interest in this tool then I will shoot a video and create a dedicated thread describing all this.

And yes, I realize I'm uber-nerdy

Wow, this is not was I was expecting. Just...awesome.

Nice work. Makes me wish I had an engineering degree and a 3D printer.

Will review the marm o. gauge further
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Old 01-29-2020, 06:32 AM
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Thanks! You don’t need an engineering degree also, the inexpensive 3D printers probably aren’t dimensionally stable enough for me to feel comfortable blindly trusting them. That would need to be tested. I would trust an SLA style print, high-end FDM, and maybe SLS. Realistically, cutting it out of card stock works just fine (but isn’t long term durable).
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Wow, this is not was I was expecting. Just...awesome.

Nice work. Makes me wish I had an engineering degree and a 3D printer.

Will review the marm o. gauge further
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