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Old 09-14-2020, 05:38 PM
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The bend, coil, etc, will happen naturally over time and you won't even have to think about it. But the concept of it should be introduced early on as it's not something you can do right away and expect immediate results. And the op obviously has zero wrist bend/coil. Based on the 2 videos and the close up photo, well... I think they speak for themselves.
Simon has no wrist curl until the elbow starts extending out away from center to release. Eagle does appear to curl in. PP doesn't.
So where's the myth?

The wrist will not or can not physically load at the right time, if the upper arm/shoulder are collapsed. You can load the wrist straight or curled.

Wrist is pretty straight.

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Old 09-14-2020, 06:27 PM
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Most elite players bend the wrist, it's 100% obvious. In this attached pic of Paige, the disc is probably hitting her forearm. Maybe she doesn't coil as much all the time, who knows. I'm sure it's something that happens without them knowing it and probably only happens "when they need to do it". I could show photo after photo of most of the current popular players and they all bend the wrist for the most part. If you really need to see that, I will be glad to do it, just give me some time.
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Old 09-14-2020, 06:33 PM
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Here's Seppo Paju....he's another huge bomber. That's all for now... lol..
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It's called lag/inertia - which bends the wrist back as you accelerate the arm.
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Old 09-14-2020, 07:18 PM
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Most elite players bend the wrist, it's 100% obvious. In this attached pic of Paige, the disc is probably hitting her forearm. Maybe she doesn't coil as much all the time, who knows. I'm sure it's something that happens without them knowing it and probably only happens "when they need to do it". I could show photo after photo of most of the current popular players and they all bend the wrist for the most part. If you really need to see that, I will be glad to do it, just give me some time.
To prove wrist curl you attached a pic of Paige that is a still frame that comes from the gif in the post right above yours that shows she is NOT curling her wrist.
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Old 09-14-2020, 07:39 PM
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I have no idea if it's the same actual throw or not, obviously the same tournament. (I captured the frame from a video, not a gif btw) If your eyes see she is not bending the wrist in the photo I attached, that's ok. In my opinion it's a more than obvious bend. Plenty other vids show paige bends the wrist, I'll post another pic later.
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I have no idea if it's the same actual throw or not, obviously the same tournament. (I captured the frame from a video, not a gif btw) If your eyes see she is not bending the wrist in the photo I attached, that's ok. In my opinion it's a more than obvious bend. Plenty other vids show paige bends the wrist, I'll post another pic later.
Video, gif, whatever, the gif probably comes from that same video...look at the post above yours. That is the same shot, same background banner, etc. You can see she isn't coiling the wrist.
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Video, gif, whatever...look at the post above yours. That is the same shot, same background banner, etc. You can see she isn't coiling the wrist.
0k.. did the gif capture every frame of the throw? Are you saying in my attached photo there is zero wrist bend?
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0k.. did the gif capture every frame of the throw? Are you saying in my attached photo there is zero wrist bend?
You think she is actively bending the wrist back there, correct?
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You think she is actively bending the wrist back there, correct?
Actively is the perfect word to discuss this. I think she has no idea she is doing it and I think it's exactly what you said earlier.. "It's called lag/inertia - which bends the wrist back as you accelerate the arm."

Some pros exaggerate this dramatically. After dinner I will post more examples.
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