PM Hades

[HERB brooks]

I've had my Hades for about a week now, and have really enjoyed throwing them. Most of my Hades throws have been between 370-410' but I have been able to stretch it out to about 430' on my best pulls (or ~350' when I throw like a trashcan). Others reading this review should note that I live a bit more than 6000' above sea level so they will fly less OS for people living at lower elevations. I've tried a handful of Hades ranging between 165 and 174 grams thus far and they have all been fairly similar in flight.

I stand by my earlier comparison to a Tern or a beat Pro Wraith, since they have a noticeable turn and then a fade back to the original aim point. I am most impressed with the glide in the Hades thus far, they tend to stay in the air for longer than I would expect a 12 speed to do. This is why I feel they are very similar to the Tern in flight. While I throw them predominantly as BH max distance drivers, I have also started to experiment with them for FH hyzer flips with some success. In a tailwind, they are fantastic for a long FH shot, but work well in calm conditions if given a hyzer release. I would not recommend throwing these FH into a headwind even at high altitudes. The Hades will definitely be going into my main bag for the rest of the year, and I have another few coming in the mail to have as backups.

[BigFlickLuke]

The multiple comparisons to a seasoned Wraith make me think that this could be an overlap disc for me. Just gotta be patient and wait for the stock stamp to find out, I guess.

[LateWesternSky]

How much hyzer are y'all putting them on to get them to 400 feet? Like 60 degrees down?

I've only thrown a Hades once, so my sample size is garbage. But I heard they were understable and it was on a hole that needed a straight flight then a lot of fade. Figuring it was too understable for the shot, I put it on a lot of hyzer, probably 30 degrees, and the thing flipped all the way over and burned into the ground.

The one I threw had some dome to it. Maybe it was just way more US than normal? My Shrykes don't flip that much.

[HERB brooks]

Originally Posted by BigFlickLuke

The multiple comparisons to a seasoned Wraith make me think that this could be an overlap disc for me. Just gotta be patient and wait for the stock stamp to find out, I guess.

From my experience, the Hades is only close to a well loved Pro Wraith (read 6/10 on the sleepy scale) where they will flip up and drift US for a ways before having a subtle fade. They are nowhere close to the stability of a newer Wraith in any plastic.

Originally Posted by LateWesternSky

How much hyzer are y'all putting them on to get them to 400 feet? Like 60 degrees down?

I've only thrown a Hades once, so my sample size is garbage. But I heard they were understable and it was on a hole that needed a straight flight then a lot of fade. Figuring it was too understable for the shot, I put it on a lot of hyzer, probably 30 degrees, and the thing flipped all the way over and burned into the ground.

The one I threw had some dome to it. Maybe it was just way more US than normal? My Shrykes don't flip that much.

I'm typically throwing mine with a very slight hyzer angle, maybe around an 8 o'clock release. They will show some turn, but I can't even think of one throw that has come close to becoming a throwler on me. Even when I give these a slight anny release, they then to fight back close to center. Granted I live in Colorado, and am 6000' plus above sea level so that is definitely a factor in the Hades flying less US. At sea level I imagine them requiring more of a hyzer release to mimic the flight path I've been getting consistently.

[Taco8slo]

Originally Posted by LateWesternSky

Figuring it was too understable for the shot, I put it on a lot of hyzer, probably 30 degrees, and the thing flipped all the way over and burned into the ground.

I have one like this too. I have thrown 2 of them so far, one goes straight into roller mode if I am trying to bomb it and the other one hyzer flips and bombs. I have 2 others I haven't thrown yet, I will try them out this weekend.

[Jolt]

I have a slow arm and never throws at max ( just hurts my arm and my game ) . . i throw in the 310-350ft range

And at that speed i don´t find the Hades flippy at all.. and i even have a 155g Hades ( i have a 155g, a 165, and a 172g )
For me att that distance i would say that the 172g Hades i have flies like 12/6/-1/1

[discerdoo]

Originally Posted by Jolt

I have a slow arm and never throws at max ( just hurts my arm and my game ) . . i throw in the 310-350ft range

And at that speed i don´t find the Hades flippy at all.. and i even have a 155g Hades ( i have a 155g, a 165, and a 172g )
For me att that distance i would say that the 172g Hades i have flies like 12/6/-1/1

Hmmm, the proverbial "longer FD". I'm probably gonna hafta try one.

[discerdoo]

These are out of stock at my normal locations. Guess I'll wait until I can feel one up in a shop or just avoid more McBeth-mania like usual.

[The Shide]

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This is one of the three I picked up this week. Had to do my special dye job to it.
Threw them & found the glide to be buttery sweet.

[wolfhaley]

That's a sweet dye job 👍

Hopefully I'll get some throws with mine tomorrow finally.